02/20/18 ~ Terah & Abraham
This is the second of my articles for today. This one is about my findings on the Terah / Abraham issue ...
Every single version of this verse says that Terah was 70 @ Abraham's birth:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gen/11/26/t_bibles_11026
KJV, NKJV, NLT, NIV, ESV, CSR, RVR60, NASB, NET, RSV, ASV, YLT, DBY, WEB, HNV, VUL, WLC, LXX, as well as GNV (1599 Geneva Bible), WYC (Wycliffe Bible) ... and I'm sure there are many more ... how many witnesses do you need? Is God's word wrong???
Below is a comparison between what is in the KJV Bible (Masoretic) to The Book of Jasher. Yes I know, Jasher is *not cannon*. Even so, I spent the WHOLE DAY yesterday preparing this article, and I feel that it contains a very accurate comparison. This article goes hand-in-hand (so to speak) with the first article dated today that I just posted. You can read that one here http://thelambswife.blogspot.com/2018/02/022018-my-revised-biblical-chronology.html I think, between these two posts, they will clarify & solidify the 70 years -vs- 130 years issue as well as any other questions y'all might have regarding the life -n- times of Terah & Abram/Abraham. Please, wipe your mental slate clean and just follow the words of truth as God inspired.
Genesis 11-25, JASHER 7-26
Terah Abraham
38 --- It seems Haran & Nahor, Abraham's older brothers, were twins
JASHER 7:22 (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/7.htm)
22 And Peleg his brother begat Yen, and Yen begat Serug, and Serug begat Nahor and Nahor begat Terah, and Terah was thirty-eight years old, and he begat Haran and Nahor. {This passage (numerically) comes after the next section, but age/years-wise it belongs here since Haran & Nahor were born first, when Terah was 38.}
Terah Abraham
70 0 The son born here is Abraham according to Jasher, see below}
"And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran." {Genesis 11:26 KJV}
"Now these [are] the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees. And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife [was] Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah. But Sarai was barren; she [had] no child. And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there." {Genesis 11:27-31, from the time Terah is 70 and begets Abraham to the time he moves to Haran with his family, at which point Abraham is a man and married to Sarai/Sarah, the years are not documented in the KJV to this point. See Jasher below.}
Terah Abraham
70 0
JASHER 7:49-51 (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/7.htm)
49 And Terah the son of Nahor, prince of Nimrod's host, was in those days very great in the sight of the king and his subjects, and the king and princes loved him, and they elevated him very high. 50 And Terah took a wife and her name was Amthelo the daughter of Cornebo; and the wife of Terah conceived and bare him a son in those days. 51 Terah was seventy years old when he begat him, and Terah called the name of his son that was born to him Abram, because the king had raised him in those days, and dignified him above all his princes that were with him. {Confirmation that Terah was 70 when Abraham was born.}
Terah Abraham
70-80 0-10
JASHER 8:1, 28-29, 30-36 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/8.htm
1 And it was in the night that Abram was born, that all the servants of Terah, and all the wise men of Nimrod, and his conjurors came and ate and drank in the house of Terah, and they rejoiced with him on that night.
JASHER 8:28-29 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/8.htm
28 And Terah saw that the anger of the king was kindled against him, and he answered the king, saying, All that I have is in the king's power; whatever the king desireth to do to his servant, that let him do, yea, even my son, he is in the king's power, without value in exchange, he and his two brothers that are older than he. 29 And the king said to Terah, No, but I will purchase thy younger son for a price. {Abram/Abraham IS this "younger son", newly born.}
JASHER 8:30-36 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/8.htm
30 And Terah answered the king, saying, I beseech thee my lord and king to let thy servant speak a word before thee, and let the king hear the word of his servant, and Terah said, Let my king give me three days' time till I consider this matter within myself, and consult with my family concerning the words of my king; and he pressed the king greatly to agree to this. 31 And the king hearkened to Terah, and he did so and he gave him three days' time, and Terah went out from the king's presence, and he came home to his family and spoke to them all the words of the king; and the people were greatly afraid. 32 And it was in the third day that the king sent to Terah, saying, Send me thy son for a price as I spoke to thee; and shouldst thou not do this, I will send and slay all thou hast in thy house, so that thou shalt not even have a dog remaining. 33 And Terah hastened, (as the thing was urgent from the king), and he took a child from one of his servants, which his handmaid had born to him that day, and Terah brought the child to the king and received value for him. 34 And the Lord was with Terah in this matter, that Nimrod might not cause Abram's death, and the king took the child from Terah and with all his might dashed his head to the ground, for he thought it had been Abram; and this was concealed from him from that day, and it was forgotten by the king, as it was the will of Providence not to suffer Abram's death. 35 And Terah took Abram his son secretly, together with his mother and nurse, and he concealed them in a cave, and he brought them their provisions monthly. 36 And the Lord was with Abram in the cave and he grew up, and Abram was in the cave ten years, and the king and his princes, soothsayers and sages, thought that the king had killed Abram.
JASHER 9:1-4 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/9.htm
1 And Haran, the son of Terah, Abram's oldest brother, took a wife in those days. 2 Haran was thirty-nine years old when he took her; and the wife of Haran conceived and bare a son, and he called his name Lot. 3 And she conceived again and bare a daughter, and she called her name Milca; and she again conceived and bare a daughter, and she called her name Sarai. 4 Haran was forty-two years old when he begat Sarai, which was in the tenth year of the life of Abram; and in those days Abram and his mother and nurse went out from the cave, as the king and his subjects had forgotten the affair of Abram. {Abraham would have been 10 years old when Sarai/Sarah was born to his eldest brother Haran. Haran would be the eldest brother and was likely born the first of twins with his brother Nahor. We know Abraham was 10 years older than Sarah because the bible states that Abraham would be 100 and Sarah 90 when at Isaac's birth, see below.}
Terah Abraham
80-119 10-49 (Terah: 80+39=119 ... Abraham: 10+39=49)
JASHER 9:6-5 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/9.htm
5 And when Abram came out from the cave, he went to Noah and his son Shem, and he remained with them to learn the instruction of the Lord and his ways, and no man knew where Abram was, and Abram served Noah and Shem his son for a long time. 6 And Abram was in Noah's house thirty-nine years, and Abram knew the Lord from three years old, and he went in the ways of the Lord until the day of his death, as Noah and his son Shem had taught him; and all the sons of the earth in those days greatly transgressed against the Lord, and they rebelled against him and they served other gods, and they forgot the Lord who had created them in the earth; and the inhabitants of the earth made unto themselves, at that time, every man his god; gods of wood and stone which could neither speak, hear, nor deliver, and the sons of men served them and they became their gods.
JASHER 10:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/10.htm
1 And Peleg the son of Eber died in those days, in the forty-eighth year of the life of Abram son of Terah, and all the days of Peleg were two hundred and thirty-nine years.
JASHER 11:12 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/11.htm
12 At that time died Nahor, son of Serug, in the forty-ninth year of the life of Abram son of Terah. {Nahor here would be Abraham's uncle, not his namesake brother.}
Terah Abraham
120 50
JASHER 11:13 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/11.htm
13 And in the fiftieth year of the life of Abram son of Terah, Abram came forth from the house of Noah, and went to his father's house.
JASHER 11:50-51 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/11.htm
50 And Terah, seeing all that Abram had done, hastened to go from his house, and he went to the king and he came before Nimrod and stood before him, and he bowed down to the king; and the king said, What dost thou want? 51 And he said, I beseech thee my lord, to hear me--Now fifty years back a child was born to me, and thus has he done to my gods and thus has he spoken; and now therefore, my lord and king, send for him that he may come before thee, and judge him according to the law, that we may be delivered from his evil. {Abraham had broken all his fathers idols. "Fifty years back" confirms Terah was 70 when Abraham was born: 120-50=70.}
JASHER 12:9-11 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
9 And when Abram was come, the conjurors of the king and the sages saw Abram, and they cried out to the king, saying, Our sovereign lord, surely this is the man whom we know to have been the child at whose birth the great star swallowed the four stars, which we declared to the king now fifty years since. 10 And behold now his father has also transgressed thy commands, and mocked thee by bringing thee another child, which thou didst kill. 11 And when the king heard their words, he was exceedingly wroth, and he ordered Terah to be brought before him. {Nimrod had thrown Abraham in prison, then summoned all his men to decide what to do with him, at which point his men realized that Abraham was the one they wanted killed 50 years earlier when they'd seen a great star swallow up four others in the sky on the night of Abraham's birth, at that time Terah took one of his maid's (concubine's) children to Nimrod, who, thinking it was the baby Abraham, killed him (Terah's maid's child instead of Abraham) and thought all was well. Now, 50 years later, Nimrod and his men realize the intended baby, Abraham, was not killed.}
JASHER 12:12-16, 36-37, 44 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
12 And the king said, Hast thou heard what the conjurors have spoken? Now tell me truly, how didst thou; and if thou shalt speak truth thou shalt be acquitted. 13 And seeing that the king's anger was so much kindled, Terah said to the king, My lord and king, thou hast heard the truth, and what the sages have spoken is right. And the king said, How couldst thou do this thing, to transgress my orders and to give me a child that thou didst not beget, and to take value for him? 14 And Terah answered the king, Because my tender feelings were excited for my son, at that time, and I took a son of my handmaid, and I brought him to the king. 15 And the king said Who advised thee to this? Tell me, do not hide aught from me, and then thou shalt not die. 16 And Terah was greatly terrified in the king's presence, and he said to the king, It was Haran my eldest son who advised me to this; and Haran was in those days that Abram was born, two and thirty years old. {Here we see that when Abraham was born his brother Haran was 32 years old, again confirming that Terah was 70 when Abraham was born {Terah was 38 when Haran was born, Haran was 32 when Abraham was born (38+32=70, again confirming Terah was 70 when Abraham was born.) We see here that Terah is afraid for his own life so he blames his son, Haran, for his own deceiving of Nimrod. Doing the math, Haran would now (50 years later, at this present time) be aged 82 (32+50=82); Abraham is still 50 years old; and Terah is still 120 years old. Haran and Abraham are thrown into a blazing furnace, Haran dies, Abraham does not, you can read the account for yourselves, link above.}
JASHER 12:36-37 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
36 And Haran the brother of Abram was burned to ashes, and they sought for his body, and they found it consumed. 37 And Haran was eighty-two years old when he died in the fire of Casdim. And the king, princes, and inhabitants of the land, seeing that Abram was delivered from the fire, they came and bowed down to Abram.
JASHER 12:44 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
44 And at that time Nahor and Abram took unto themselves wives, the daughters of their brother Haran; the wife of Nahor was Milca and the name of Abram's wife was Sarai. And Sarai, wife of Abram, was barren; she had no offspring in those days. {The Nahor spoken of here is Abraham's other brother, named after his uncle so-named above. It's not clear here when exactly within the two years Abraham married Sarah, it would be sometime between the ages of 50-52. Sarah, being 10 years younger (as seen above), would now be between 40-42.}
Terah Abraham
122 52
JASHER 12:45, 57, 68-70 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
45 And at the expiration of two years from Abram's going out of the fire, that is in the fifty-second year of his life, behold king Nimrod sat in Babel upon the throne, and the king fell asleep and dreamed that he was standing with his troops and hosts in a valley opposite the king's furnace. {You can click the link above to read the dream.}
JASHER 12:57 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
57 Now therefore my king, surely thou knowest that it is now fifty-two years since thy sages saw this at the birth of Abram, and if my king will suffer Abram to live in the earth it will be to the injury of my lord and king, for all the days that Abram liveth neither thou nor thy kingdom will be established, for this was known formerly at his birth; and why will not my king slay him, that his evil may be kept from thee in latter days? {Abraham flees to Noah & Shem, Terah secretly comes to see him; for which Abraham, Noah and Shem advize Terah that they should go to the land of Canaan to keep Nimrod from killing either or both of them. You can read the rest on your own.}
JASHER 12:68-70 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/12.htm
68 Now therefore hearken to my voice, and let us arise and go to the land of Canaan, out of the reach of injury from Nimrod; and serve thou the Lord who created thee in the earth and it will be well with thee; and cast away all the vain things which thou pursuest. 69 And Abram ceased to speak, when Noah and his son Shem answered Terah, saying, True is the word which Abram hath said unto thee. 70 And Terah hearkened to the voice of his son Abram, and Terah did all that Abram said, for this was from the Lord, that the king should not cause Abram's death.
JASHER 13:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
1 And Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot, the son of Haran, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, the wife of his son Abram, and all the souls of his household and went with them from Ur Casdim to go to the land of Canaan. And when they came as far as the land of Haran they remained there, for it was exceedingly good land for pasture, and of sufficient extent for those who accompanied them. {Abraham is still 52 years old here; Terah is still 122 years old.}
Terah Abraham
125 55
JASHER 12:3-6 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
3 And Abram remained in the land three years, and at the expiration of three years the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him; I am the Lord who brought thee forth from Ur Casdim, and delivered thee from the hands of all thine enemies. 4 And now therefore if thou wilt hearken to my voice and keep my commandments, my statutes and my laws, then will I cause thy enemies to fall before thee, and I will multiply thy seed like the stars of heaven, and I will send my blessing upon all the works of thy hands, and thou shalt lack nothing. 5 Arise now, take thy wife and all belonging to thee and go to the land of Canaan and remain there, and I will there be unto thee for a God, and I will bless thee. And Abram rose and took his wife and all belonging to him, and he went to the land of Canaan as the Lord had told him; and Abram was fifty years old when he went from Haran. 6 And Abram came to the land of Canaan and dwelt in the midst of the city, and he there pitched his tent amongst the children of Canaan, inhabitants of the land. {Here we have a discrepancy: it says Abraham was 50 when he left Haran for the land of Canaan, but if he was 52 above and he was in the land of Haran for 3 years before going to Canaan then reason says he would now be 55, not 50. Hopefully I'll get clarification on this as I do more research. It seems "50" is a known typo, see next part.}
Terah Abraham
128 58
JASHER 13:9 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
9 At that time, at the end of three years of Abram's dwelling in the land of Canaan, in that year Noah died, which was the fifty-eighth year of the life of Abram; and all the days that Noah lived were nine hundred and fifty years and he died. {This confirms that Abraham was 55 in the section above, not 50, because after yet another three years he is now shown to be 58 (55+3=58). The typo may actually be just the webpage and not the actual book, I don't have the actual book to verify from, sorry.}
JASHER 13:10 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
10 And Abram dwelt in the land of Canaan, he, his wife, and all belonging to him, and all those that accompanied him, together with those that joined him from the people of the land; but Nahor, Abram's brother, and Terah his father, and Lot the son of Haran and all belonging to them dwelt in Haran. {This shows that Nahor (Abraham's other brother), Terah, and Lot (he joins Abraham at a later time) ALL stayed in Haran; while Abraham dwelt in the land of Canaan ... this solidifies that Abraham's father (Terah) stayed in Haran but that Abraham did not, he went to Canaan as God commanded him, long before his father died. Terah is still 128 and doesn't actually die for another 77 years at the ripe old age of 205. Abraham is still 58 at this point.}
Terah Abraham
130 60
JASHER 13:11 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
11 In the fifth year of Abram's dwelling in the land of Canaan the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and all the cities of the plain revolted from the power of Chedorlaomer, king of Elam; for all the kings of the cities of the plain had served Chedorlaomer for twelve years, and given him a yearly tax, but in those days in the thirteenth year, they rebelled against him. {If Abraham's in the land of Canaan for three years as stated above, and was 58 years old at that time, adding another two years (to bring the total being in Canaan to five years) as stated here means that Abraham is now 60 years old, and still living in the land of Canaan, not Haran. His father, et al, as mentioned above, is/are still in Haran, and his father Terah is now aged 130. We can still confirm that Terah was indeed 70 at Abraham's birth since even now their ages are 70 years difference.}
Terah Abraham
135 65
JASHER 13:12 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
12 And in the tenth year of Abram's dwelling in the land of Canaan there was war between Nimrod king of Shinar and Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Nimrod came to fight with Chedorlaomer and to subdue him. {Above, in the fifth year of Abraham being in Canaan, he is 60, add five more years to bring it up to the tenth year in Canaan (not Haran) and we now see Abraham was 65.}
Terah Abraham
140 70
JASHER 13:17 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
17 And it was in the fifteenth year of Abram's dwelling in the land of Canaan, which is the seventieth year of the life of Abram, and the Lord appeared to Abram in that year and he said to him, I am the Lord who brought thee out from Ur Casdim to give thee this land for an inheritance. {Adding another 5 years to Abraham's age above brings him to the age of 70 years old during his fifteenth year in the land of Canaan. Terah would now be 140.}
Terah Abraham
??? 75 Abraham is 75 when he departs from Haran, Terah's age not mentioned.
"Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram [was] seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came." {Genesis 12:1-5 KJV}
Terah Abraham
145 75
JASHER 13:20 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
20 At that time Abram returned and went to Haran to see his father and mother, and his father's household, and Abram and his wife and all belonging to him returned to Haran, and Abram dwelt in Haran five years. {Adding yet another five years to Abraham's age above brings him to 75, and Terah is now 145. BUT NOTICE THIS!!! Abraham MOVES BACK TO HARAN FOR FIVE YEARS FROM THE AGE OF 70 TO 75! This clears up masses of confusion! Now we see how it is that Abraham left Haran at age 75, this is the second time he departed from Haran after living there a few years each time! See also Acts 7:4.}
JASHER 13:22-27 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/13.htm
22 In those days the Lord appeared to Abram in Haran, and he said to him, Behold, I spoke unto thee these twenty years back saying, 23 Go forth from thy land, from thy birth-place and from thy father's house, to the land which I have shown thee to give it to thee and to thy children, for there in that land will I bless thee, and make thee a great nation, and make thy name great, and in thee shall the families of the earth be blessed. 24 Now therefore arise, go forth from this place, thou, thy wife, and all belonging to thee, also every one born in thy house and all the souls thou hast made in Haran, and bring them out with thee from here, and rise to return to the land of Canaan. 25 And Abram arose and took his wife Sarai and all belonging to him and all that were born to him in his house and the souls which they had made in Haran, and they came out to go to the land of Canaan. 26 And Abram went and returned to the land of Canaan, according to the word of the Lord. And Lot the son of his brother Haran went with him, and Abram was seventy-five years old when he went forth from Haran to return to the land of Canaan. 27 And he came to the land of Canaan according to the word of the Lord to Abram, and he pitched his tent and he dwelt in the plain of Mamre, and with him was Lot his brother's son, and all belonging to him. {Abraham now moves back to Canaan after being in Haran for five years; Terah stays in Haran. Lot also now moves to Canaan -with- Abraham, whereas previously he stayed in Haran with his grandfather, Terah. Please note, this is Abraham's second time moving to Canaan after living in Haran these five years. Abraham is still 75, Terah is still 145. Also, this mentions the initial promise God gave to Abraham "twenty years" ago, so he would have been 55 when he got said promise, see above.}
JASHER 15:47 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/15.htm
47 And Abram dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and he pitched his tent there, and Abram remained in that place many years. {Mamre (which is in Hebron) is in the land of Canaan. According to this chapter, Hagar was a daughter of Pharoah via a concubine, he gave her to Abraham as booty so to speak, you can read the whole *Egypt* story for yourselves.}
JASHER 16:11-12 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/16.htm
11 And Adonizedek king of Jerusalem, the same was Shem, went out with his men to meet Abram and his people, with bread and wine, and they remained together in the valley of Melech. 12 And Adonizedek blessed Abram, and Abram gave him a tenth from all that he had brought from the spoil of his enemies, for Adonizedek was a priest before God. {I put this here because it tells us that the one the KJV refers to as Melchizedek, or Melchisedec, here called by the title of Adonizedek, is in fact Noah's son, Shem. The title means: Melek (king) & Zedek (priest). See Genesis 14:18, and Hebrews 5-7.}
Terah Abraham
148 78
JASHER 16:22 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/16.htm
22 And in the seventy-eighth year of the life of Abram, in that year died Reu, the son of Peleg, and all the days of Reu were two hundred and thirty-nine years, and he died.
Terah Abraham Sarai gives Hagar to wife for Abraham to bear her a child, Terah's age not mentioned.
??? 85 "And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife." {Genesis 16:3 KJV}
JASHER 16:26-27 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/16.htm
Terah Abraham
155 85
27 And Sarai said to Abram, Behold here is my handmaid Hagar, go to her that she may bring forth upon my knees, that I may also obtain children through her. 27 And at the end of ten years of Abram's dwelling in the land of Canaan, which is the eighty-fifth year of Abram's life, Sarai gave Hagar unto him. {This was 10 years after Abraham moved to Canaan for the second time (he was 75 at that time, he is now 85, ten years later). The KJV doesn't give Terah's age but I have confirmed that Abraham is now 85 and I know for certain (by the Book of Jasher quotes) that Abraham was born when his father Terah was 70 years old. So, 85+70=155 for Terah at this point, who is still living in Haran. Since I feel that Terah's age when he begat Abraham is proven, I really don't need to continue in Jasher LOL but, I'm on a roll so here we go, I'll continue on through Terah's death and then Abraham's death. Terah doesn't die for another 50 years (age 205) and when he does die he's still in Haran; Abraham is in Canaan and otherwise wandering around when there's famines or God tells him to move.}
Terah Abraham After much travel, Abraham takes Hagar who bears him Ishmael, Terah's age not mentioned.
??? 86 "And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. And Abram [was] fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram." {Genesis 16:15-16 KJV}
JASHER 16:36 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/16.htm
Terah Abraham
156 86
36 And Hagar at that time returned to her master's house, and at the end of days Hagar bare a son to Abram, and Abram called his name Ishmael; and Abram was eighty-six years old when he begat him.
JASHER 17:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/17.htm
Terah Abraham
161 91
1 And in those days, in the ninety-first year of the life of Abram, the children of Chittim made war with the children of Tubal, for when the Lord had scattered the sons of men upon the face of the earth, the children of Chittim went and embodied themselves in the plain of Canopia, and they built themselves cities there and dwelt by the river Tibreu. {The timespan from the last age of Terah (156) and Abraham (86) is five years so I added that to each here to get 161 (Terah= 156+5) and 91 (Abraham = 86+5). You can read the rest yourselves.}
Terah Abraham Abraham is 99 when he receives promise of a child (Isaac) by Sarah.
??? 99 Abraham and Ismael (age 13) are circumcized, Terah's age not mentioned.
"And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I [am] the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect." {Genesis 17:1} ... "And Abraham [was] ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin." {Genesis17:24}
JASHER 17:16-20 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/17.htm
Terah Abraham
169 99
16 And Abram the son of Terah was then ninety-nine years old. 17 At that time the Lord appeared to him and he said to him, I will make my covenant between me and thee, and I will greatly multiply thy seed, and this is the covenant which I make between me and thee, that every male child be circumcised, thou and thy seed after thee. 18 At eight days old shall it be circumcised, and this covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 19 And now therefore thy name shall no more be called Abram but Abraham, and thy wife shall no more be called Sarai but Sarah. 20 For I will bless you both, and I will multiply your seed after you that you shall become a great nation, and kings shall come forth from you. {I am confident that Terah was 70 at Abraham's birth, as Jasher records, therefore, 99+70=169, which would be Terah's age at this point. Since Abraham was 86 when Ishmael was born, and Ishmael is now 13 years old (see next section), Abraham's age is indeed 99.}
JASHER 18:1-4 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/18.htm
1 And Abraham rose and did all that God had ordered him, and he took the men of his household and those bought with his money, and he circumcised them as the Lord had commanded him. 2 And there was not one left whom he did not circumcise, and Abraham and his son Ishmael were circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin; thirteen years old was Ishmael when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 3 And in the third day Abraham went out of his tent and sat at the door to enjoy the heat of the sun, during the pain of his flesh. 4 And the Lord appeared to him in the plain of Mamre, and sent three of his ministering angels to visit him, and he was sitting at the door of the tent, and he lifted his eyes and saw, and lo three men were coming from a distance, and he rose up and ran to meet them, and he bowed down to them and brought them into his house.
Terah Abraham
??? 100 Abraham made this remark the prior year. Terah's age is not mentioned.
"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall [a child] be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" {Genesis 17:17} ... and confirmed here ... "And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him." {Genesis 21:5 KJV}
JASHER 20:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/20.htm
Terah Abraham
170 100
1 And at that time Abraham journeyed from the plain of Mamre, and he went to the land of the Philistines, and he dwelt in Gerar; it was in the twenty-fifth year of Abraham's being in the land of Canaan, and the hundredth year of the life of Abraham, that he came to Gerar in the land of the Philistines. {This is after Sodom and surrounding cities were destroyed. The ages here are easy, Terah was 70 when Abraham was born, Abraham is now 100 so Terah is now 170. JASHER 21:11 says that Ishmael was 14 when Isaac was born. "And Ishmael the son of Abraham was grown up in those days; he was fourteen years old when Sarah bare Isaac to Abraham.")
JASHER 21:1-3 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/21.htm
1 And it was at that time at the end of a year and four months of Abraham's dwelling in the land of the Philistines in Gerar, that God visited Sarah, and the Lord remembered her, and she conceived and bare a son to Abraham. 2 And Abraham called the name of the son which was born to him, which Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 3 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac at eight days old, as God had commanded Abraham to do unto his seed after him; and Abraham was one hundred, and Sarah ninety years old, when Isaac was born to them. {This has to do with the story of Abraham being in the land of the Philistines, king Abimelech takes Sarah, the kingdom is plagued so he returns her to her husband. Isaac is born. You can also read chapter 20 for more on this story.}
JASHER 21:4-8 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/21.htm
4 And the child grew up and he was weaned, and Abraham made a great feast upon the day that Isaac was weaned. 5 And Shem and Eber and all the great people of the land, and Abimelech king of the Philistines, and his servants, and Phicol, the captain of his host, came to eat and drink and rejoice at the feast which Abraham made upon the day of his son Isaac's being weaned. 6 Also Terah, the father of Abraham, and Nahor his brother, came from Haran, they and all belonging to them, for they greatly rejoiced on hearing that a son had been born to Sarah. 7 And they came to Abraham, and they ate and drank at the feast which Abraham made upon the day of Isaac's being weaned. 8 And Terah and Nahor rejoiced with Abraham, and they remained with him many days in the land of the Philistines. {This shows Abraham was still in Gerar, the land of the Philistines, when Isaac was weaned (a couple years later); and that Abraham's father, Terah, was still living in Haran but had come to Gerar to celebrate Isaac's weaning. This is likely (guessing) about two years after Isaac's birth although there is no year given. If two years later then Terah would be about 172, Abraham about 102.}
JASHER 21:9-10 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/21.htm
9 At that time Serug the son of Reu died, in the first year of the birth of Isaac son of Abraham. 10 And all the days of Serug were two hundred and thirty-nine years, and he died. {I'm just putting this here for reference that Serug died during the 1st year of Isaac's life. Terah would have been approximately 171, and Abraham approximately 101.}
JASHER 21:13-15 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/21.htm
Terah Abraham
175 105
13 And when Isaac was five years old he was sitting with Ishmael at the door of the tent. 14 And Ishmael came to Isaac and seated himself opposite to him, and he took the bow and drew it and put the arrow in it, and intended to slay Isaac. 15 And Sarah saw the act which Ishmael desired to do to her son Isaac, and it grieved her exceedingly on account of her son, and she sent for Abraham, and said to him, Cast out this bondwoman and her son, for her son shall not be heir with my son, for thus did he seek to do unto him this day. {Well, now we have the bigger picture of what Ishmael intended to do to Isaac. Isaac is now five years old, and they've been in the land of the Philistines for five years, so Ishmael would then be 19 (14+5), Abraham would then be 105 (100+5), and Terah would then be 175 (170+5).}
JASHER 22:4 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm
Terah Abraham
196 126
4 And the days increased and reached twenty six years, and after that Abraham with his servants and all belonging to him went from the land of the Philistines and removed to a great distance, and they came near to Hebron, and they remained there, and the servants of Abraham dug wells of water, and Abraham and all belonging to him dwelt by the water, and the servants of Abimelech king of the Philistines heard the report that Abraham's servants had dug wells of water in the borders of the land. {This is their 26th year in the land of the Philistines, and they leave that land and head back to Hebron in Canaan. We've already accounted for the first five years in the section above, that leaves us with 21 years to add to those ages: Terah is now 196; Abraham is now 126.}
JASHER 22:14-15 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm
15 And Abraham and his children and all belonging to him dwelt in Beersheba, and he pitched his tent as far as Hebron. 15 And Abraham's brother Nahor and his father and all belonging to them dwelt in Haran, for they did not come with Abraham to the land of Canaan.
Terah Abraham
205 ??? Abraham's age not given, see next section: he was 135 (135+70=205)
"And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran." {Genesis 11:32 KJV}
JASHER 22:31-34 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm
Terah Abraham
205 135
31 And Terah, father of Nahor and Abraham, went and took another wife in his old age, and her name was Pelilah, and she conceived and bare him a son and he called his name Zoba. 32 And Terah lived twenty-five years after he begat Zoba. 33 And Terah died in that year, that is in the thirty-fifth year of the birth of Isaac son of Abraham. 34 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years, and he was buried in Haran. {This reveals a few things: Terah died at age 205, when Isaac was 35; therefore, Abraham would have been 135 when Terah died. Since Terah lived 25 years after his last son, Zoba, was born to him in his old age, Terah would have been 180, and (by deductive reasoning) Abraham would have been 110 when Zoba was born to his father, Terah.}
Terah Abraham Sarah dies at 127
--- 137 "And Sarah was an hundred and seven and twenty years old: [these were] the years of the life of Sarah." {Genesis 17:17, 23:1 KJV, see next section}
JASHER 22:40-45 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 137
40 And Isaac the son of Abraham was growing up in those days, and Abraham his father taught him the way of the Lord to know the Lord, and the Lord was with him. 41 And when Isaac was thirty-seven years old, Ishmael his brother was going about with him in the tent. 42 And Ishmael boasted of himself to Isaac, saying, I was thirteen years old when the Lord spoke to my father to circumcise us, and I did according to the word of the Lord which he spoke to my father, and I gave my soul unto the Lord, and I did not transgress his word which he commanded my father. 43 And Isaac answered Ishmael, saying, Why dost thou boast to me about this, about a little bit of thy flesh which thou didst take from thy body, concerning which the Lord commanded thee? 44 As the Lord liveth, the God of my father Abraham, if the Lord should say unto my father, Take now thy son Isaac and bring him up an offering before me, I would not refrain but I would joyfully accede to it. 45 And the Lord heard the word that Isaac spoke to Ishmael, and it seemed good in the sight of the Lord, and he thought to try Abraham in this matter. {Fascinating tidbit, I did not know that! Isaac was 37 here so that would make Abraham 137, two years after Terah's death.}
JASHER 22:46-55 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm
55 And the day arrived when the sons of God came and placed themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with the sons of God before the Lord. 47 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? and Satan answered the Lord and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 48 And the Lord said to Satan, What is thy word to me concerning all the children of the earth? and Satan answered the Lord and said, I have seen all the children of the earth who serve thee and remember thee when they require anything from thee. 49 And when thou givest them the thing which they require from thee, they sit at their ease, and forsake thee and they remember thee no more. 50 Hast thou seen Abraham the son of Terah, who at first had no children, and he served thee and erected altars to thee wherever he came, and he brought up offerings upon them, and he proclaimed thy name continually to all the children of the earth. 51 And now that his son Isaac is born to him, he has forsaken thee, he has made a great feast for all the inhabitants of the land, and the Lord he has forgotten. 52 For amidst all that he has done he brought thee no offering; neither burnt offering nor peace offering, neither ox, lamb nor goat of all that he killed on the day that his son was weaned. 53 Even from the time of his son's birth till now, being thirty-seven years, he built no altar before thee, nor brought any offering to thee, for he saw that thou didst give what he requested before thee, and he therefore forsook thee. 54 And the Lord said to Satan, Hast thou thus considered my servant Abraham? for there is none like him upon earth, a perfect and an upright man before me, one that feareth God and avoideth evil; as I live, were I to say unto him, Bring up Isaac thy son before me, he would not withhold him from me, much more if I told him to bring up a burnt offering before me from his flock or herds. 55 And Satan answered the Lord and said, Speak then now unto Abraham as thou hast said, and thou wilt see whether he will not this day transgress and cast aside thy words. {Who KNEW!? More fascinating stuff, sounds like the story of Job. Abraham is still 137, Isaac is still 37.}
JASHER 23:87-90 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/23.htm
87 And when Abraham had finished his service he returned with his son Isaac to his young men, and they rose up and went together to Beersheba, and they came home. 88 And Abraham sought for Sarah, and could not find her, and he made inquiries concerning her, and they said unto him, She went as far as Hebron to seek you both where you had gone, for thus was she informed. 89 And Abraham and Isaac went to her to Hebron, and when they found that she was dead they lifted up their voices and wept bitterly over her; and Isaac fell upon his mother's face and wept over her, and he said, O my mother, my mother, how hast thou left me, and where hast thou gone? O how, how hast thou left me! 90 And Abraham and Isaac wept greatly and all their servants wept with them on account of Sarah, and they mourned over her a great and heavy mourning. {This was after Abraham sacrificed the Ram in place of Isaac. BTW, the Ram represents Jesus -in place of- Isaac, it does NOT represent Isaac. Abraham is still 137, Isaac is still 37; Sarah, being 10 years younger than Abraham would have died at the age of 127.}
JASHER 24:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
1 And the life of Sarah was one hundred and twenty-seven years, and Sarah died; and Abraham rose up from before his dead to seek a burial place to bury his wife Sarah; and he went and spoke to the children of Heth, the inhabitants of the land, saying, ... {You can read the rest on your own.}
JASHER 24:10-16 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
10 That the cave and the field Abraham bought from Ephron the Hittite, and from his seed, and from those that go out of his city, and from their seed for ever, are to be a purchase to Abraham and to his seed and to those that go forth from his loins, for a possession of a burial place for ever; and he put a signet to it and testified it with witnesses. 11 And the field and the cave that was in it and all that place were made sure unto Abraham and unto his seed after him, from the children of Heth; behold it is before Mamre in Hebron, which is in the land of Canaan. 12 And after this Abraham buried his wife Sarah there, and that place and all its boundary became to Abraham and unto his seed for a possession of a burial place. 13 And Abraham buried Sarah with pomp as observed at the interment of kings, and she was buried in very fine and beautiful garments. 14 And at her bier was Shem, his sons Eber and Abimelech, together with Anar, Ashcol and Mamre, and all the grandees of the land followed her bier. 15 And the days of Sarah were one hundred and twenty-seven years and she died, and Abraham made a great and heavy mourning, and he performed the rites of mourning for seven days. 16 And all the inhabitants of the land comforted Abraham and Isaac his son on account of Sarah.
JASHER 24:22 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 139
22 And Lot the son of Haran also died in those days, in the thirty-ninth year of the life of Isaac, and all the days that Lot lived were one hundred and forty years and he died. {This is a bit out of place from the section below. Isaac is 39 at this time so Abraham would have been 139 (thus this passage is moved up a section.)}
JASHER 24:17-18 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 140
18 And when the days of their mourning passed by Abraham sent away his son Isaac, and he went to the house of Shem and Eber, to learn the ways of the Lord and his instructions, and Abraham remained there three years. 18 At that time Abraham rose up with all his servants, and they went and returned homeward to Beersheba, and Abraham and all his servants remained in Beersheba. {Abraham stayed in the land that Sarah died in for three years and then returned home to Beersheba (in Canaan). Abraham was 137 when Sarah died, adding 3 years makes him now 140.}
JASHER 24:27 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
27 And Nahor the son of Terah, brother to Abraham, died in those days in the fortieth year of the life of Isaac, and all the days of Nahor were one hundred and seventy-two years and he died and was buried in Haran. {This is, as the passage says, Nahor, Abraham's brother, who died when Isaac was in his 40th year, that would make Abraham 140 still.}
JASHER 24:40, 44-45 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/24.htm
40 And the young woman was of very comely appearance, she was a virgin, and Rebecca was ten years old in those days. ... 44 And Isaac took Rebecca and she became his wife, and he brought her into the tent. 45 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca, the daughter of his uncle Bethuel, for a wife. {According to this, Rebecca was only 10 years old when she became Isaac's wife, Isaac being 40 years old; Abraham would have been 140 still. Although marrying young girls was common then, even so, I put this here as it may require further research.}
JASHER 25:28 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/25.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 148
28 And Rebecca the daughter of Bethuel, the wife of Abraham's son Isaac, was barren in those days, she had no offspring; and Isaac dwelt with his father in the land of Canaan; and the Lord was with Isaac; and Arpachshad the son of Shem the son of Noah died in those days, in the forty-eighth year of the life of Isaac, and all the days that Arpachshad lived were four hundred and thirty-eight years, and he died. {So, now we're eight years later: Isaac is 48, so Abraham is 148. Rebecca would now be 18, being called barren.}
JASHER 26:1 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/26.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 159
1 And in the fifty-ninth year of the life of Isaac the son of Abraham, Rebecca his wife was still barren in those days. {It's 11 years later: Isaac is now 59, so Abraham would be 159; Rebecca would be 29.}
JASHER 26:16 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/26.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 160
16 And Isaac, the son of Abraham, was sixty years old when he begat them. {Now Isaac was 60 when Jacob & Esau (twins) are born to him by Rebecca; Abraham would now be 160 years old; Rebecca would now be 30 years old.}
Terah Abraham Abraham dies at age 175
--- 175
"And these [are] the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years." {Genesis 25:7 KJV}
JASHER 26:29 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/26.htm
Terah Abraham
--- 175
29 And it was at that time that Abraham died, in the fifteenth year of the life of Jacob and Esau, the sons of Isaac, and all the days of Abraham were one hundred and seventy-five years, and he died and was gathered to his people in good old age, old and satisfied with days, and Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him. {Abraham dies at the age of 175 when Isaac is 75 years old, and Jacob & Esau are both 15 years old. This is verified by the fact that Isaac was 60 when his twin boys were born, so: 60+15= 75 for Isaac's age at his father, Abraham's, death.}
THE END ;o}
*** NOTE: The use of the book of Jasher, IMHO, is validated by the following KJV scriptures:
"And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." {Joshua 10:13 KJV}
JASHER 88:63-65 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/88.htm
63 And when they were smiting, the day was declining toward evening, and Joshua said in the sight of all the people, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon, and thou moon in the valley of Ajalon, until the nation shall have revenged itself upon its enemies. 64 And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Joshua, and the sun stood still in the midst of the heavens, and it stood still six and thirty moments, and the moon also stood still and hastened not to go down a whole day. 65 And there was no day like that, before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened to the voice of a man, for the Lord fought for Israel.
"(Also he bade them teach the children of Judah [the use of] the bow: behold, [it is] written in the book of Jasher.)" {2 Samuel 1:18 KJV}
JASHER 56:8-9 http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/56.htm
8 And Jacob said unto Judah, I know my son that thou art a mighty man for thy brethren; reign over them, and thy sons shall reign over their sons forever. 9 Only teach thy sons the bow and all the weapons of war, in order that they may fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies.
The following websites also agree that Terah was 70 when Abraham was born:
https://www.akhlah.com/jewish-traditions/timeline/
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/173,2107657/Timeline-of-Jewish-History.html
http://baruchhashemadonai.org/Timeline%202016.pdf (pgs 11-13 of 82, PDF)
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3915966/jewish/Timeline-of-Jewish-History.htm
http://seder-olam.info/seder_olam_rabbah_part_1_albert_benhamou.pdf (pg 3 of 4, PDF)
http://seder-olam.info/seder-olam-g17-abraham.html#birth_of_abraham
It's possible that all of the above have the same source, possibly the Masoretic, as well as Jasher.
An interesting read ... http://www.jasher.com/Insights%20page/Realjash.htm
{Curly bracket comments are mine. ALL scripture is KJV unless otherwise specified. Links *should* open in a new window. IF this article is Firefox Reader View friendly it'll be because they've fixed it to read blog posts.}
02/20/18 ~ My REVISED Biblical Chronology
On my FB page, there have been three primary comments to my graphic that I want to address here in my blog:
1) One is that the year is actually 3983, not 3982.
This is correct ... well, we're both right! I'll explain below. This is the main issue I want to address here in this article and will be the bulk thereof, doing the math, by the book.
2) Was Terah 70 (as the KJV/Masoretic states) or 130 (deductive reasoning) when Abram {Abraham} was born?
It's so important to me to *get it right* that I took the time to actually research whether what I have in the KJV (from the Masoretic) is correct (up to and including the 4th year of king Solomon's reign) that I took ALL DAY yesterday researching. I'm not sorry to report that all that I was able to find regarding Terah & Abraham seems to confirm Terah was 70, not 130, when Abraham (the youngest of the three, according to Jasher) was born. Even though I have now completed a whole different article on this particular topic, I am going to leave what I've already said here as this article was written first and it does make some important points regarding Terah's age at Abram/Abraham's birth. If you still disagree, that's OK, we can agree to disagree and still love each other in the Lord. See my other article, also posted today. Consider: If the scriptures, as written, are not correct then we might as well close up shop and go home (quit). Why is it all years mentioned below are right ... except one (Terah @ 70) is wrong??? Just sayin'! Here's my second article for today, on this very topic ... https://thelambswife.blogspot.com/2018/02/022018-terah-abraham.html
3) The other comment was that Jesus was born in -7BC to -6BC because Herod the Great died in -4BC, which, I believe, is not correct.
I won't be delving into this one specifically but I will post my response links below where some researchers have discovered that Herod more likely died in -1BC (not -4BC) and that Jesus was probably born between -3BC to -1BC (not -7BC to -6BC).
Scriptures to ponder as you continue ...
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." {Acts 17:11, speaking of the Jews in Berea (aka: Bereans)}
"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." -Jesus {John 5:39}
"For the word of the LORD [is] right; and all his works [are done] in truth." {Psalm 33:4}
"So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word." {Psalm 119:42}
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." -Jesus {John 17:17}
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." {2 Timothy 2:15}
Here's how I came to my dates ... yes, I'm going to go through the entire drab line of the fathers' ages at the begetting of their -significant- sons as biblically listed. I'm doing this strictly by the KJV (Masoretic) and none of these figures are changed to work with my own ideas or reasoning. I'm doing it BY THE BOOK:
*** THIS IS THE START OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE FATHERS' AGES AT SONS' BIRTHS ***
0 Adam (& Eve) created Genesis 1-2
130 Seth born, son of Adam with Eve Genesis 5:3
105 Enosh born, son of Seth Genesis 5:6
90 Kenan born, son of Enosh Genesis 5:9
70 Mahalalel born, son of Kenan Genesis 5:12
65 Jared born, son of Mahalalel Genesis 5:15
162 Enoch born, son of Jared Genesis 5:18
65 Methuselah born, son of Enoch Genesis 5:21
187 Lamech born, son of Methusaleh Genesis 5:25
182 Noah born, son of Lamech Genesis 5:28-29
500 Shem, Ham, Japheth: sons of Noah Genesis 5:32
{Noah is 500 years old at the birth of at least one of his three sons}
100 years later, Noah is 600, flood begins Genesis 7:6
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1656 years, from creation to the flood
Some will object ...
- "There is no year zero!" Well, you have to start somewhere, you can't start at one year until a full 12 months pass. Thus I start at zero. You can't say a baby is a year old until it completes it's 12th month, right? You can't say Adam is 130 until he lives to his full 130th year, and somewhere within that year Seth is born. The bible begins with numbers at Seth's birth, therefore so do I. Adam & Eve were created on the sixth day, that does not count as a year in the chronology as recorded.
- "But ... Shem, Ham & Japheth's births are *probably* different years!" OK, well I'm simply putting the number the bible has ... I'm sure the writers thereof knew, they were there, I was not. The likelihood that Shem was 98 when Noah was 600 would be accurate as you'll see in the next section because the bible says Shem was 100 when his son Arphaxad was born two years AFTER the flood. Also, Noah's children have NO bearing on the father's age (600) when the flood starts, as the bible states. This is a *non-issue* and does NOT in any way conflict with the numbers. I'm going with what is recorded in God's word, argue with that ;o}
2 Arphaxad born, son of Shem Genesis 11:10
{Shem is 100 years old, Arphaxad is born 2 years after the flood}
35 Shelah born, son of Arphaxad Genesis 11:12
30 Eber born, son of Shelah Genesis 11:14
34 Peleg born, son of Eber Genesis 10:25, 11:16
30 Reu born, son of Peleg Genesis 11:18
32 Serug born, son of Reu Genesis 11:20
30 Nahor born, son of Serug Genesis 11:22
29 Terah born, son of Nahor Genesis 11:24
70 Abram (Abraham) born, son of Terah Genesis 11:26
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292 years, from the flood to the birth of Abram (Abraham)
Some will object ...
- "The Septuagint (LXX) version says the above years are cut short by hundreds of years!" I'm using the Masoretic, the KJV Bible. Argue with God on that one, not me. I believe the KJV is the most accurate.
- "My preferred version (pick yours and put here) says blah, blah, blah!" OK, see above LOL
- "Shem was 100, why did you only put 2!?" Because Shem was 100, TWO YEARS -AFTER- the flood, and that is when Arphaxad was born. The flood began in 1656 years from creation, so two years after the flood brings us to 1658 after creation.
- "Terah was NOT 70 when Abram was born, he was 130!!!" Seriously folks, CHILL! Why-o-why must we complicate things??? The bible says Terah was 70 and lists all three sons, including Abram {Abraham}, they could have been triples for all I know. I'm not going to question what the word says. I'm SURE that Moses knew what he was doing when he recorded 70. I'm not going to argue with the word, it says 70 so that's what I'm going with ... you argue with the word 0.o You have to put your own figure in this place if you use 130, no where in the bible does it say Terah was 130 when Abram was born, nowhere. I understand you get that by *deductive reasoning* but still, it's NOT what Moses had directly recorded. What it does say is Terah was 70 when his sons were (began to be) born, including Abram as listed in the passage thereof. The fact is, at least ONE of Terah's sons was born when he was 70 ... ok? Let's just go with how the bible records the years, we can ask God the meaning thereof when we see Him. Can we just take God at His word? Does the bible not say ... "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost." {2 Peter 1:21} ... so, let's just roll with what the bible records and not get tangled up in semantics.
*** Now to subtotal the years, by the book, let's add 1656 + 292 to get the total years from creation to the birth of (at least one of) Terah's sons:
1656 years, from creation to the flood
292 years, from the flood to the birth of Abram (Abraham)
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1948 years, from the creation to the birth of Abram (Abraham)
The LORD renames Abram (Terah's son) to ...
"Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee." {Genesis 17:5}
"Abram; the same [is] Abraham." {1 Chronicles 1:27}
"Thou [art] the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;" {Nehemiah 9:7}
Some will object ...
- "Abraham was not born in 1948!" I addressed this above. The year given is 70, not 130 (or whatever Terah' may have been if not Abram's birth). The fact is Terah was 70 when at least one of the three sons was born and this is the number that is documented. Will you argue with God as to why He had the writer document 70? I am simply recording the years given, keep reading, it'll all work out in the end. Hey, it may be that even tho Abram *may have been* born in a later year, since he's the -significant- son, he gets credit for the elder's birth year? Maybe they were triplets!? Who am I to argue with what the bible records? I am not going to go to extra biblical sources and I am not going to go to what others have written because they don't like this record of 70 ... God's word is true and I'm sticking to it. Remember this warning from Jesus {Yeshua} ... "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." {Matthew 5:18} We should not change the word to suit our understanding, we must conform to what the word says whether we understand it or not. See above for more info on why I'm going with 70 ... simply put, it's what the bible, through Moses, says ;o}
There's a great saying that goes like this, and it's my personal motto: "Keep it simple, stupid." In other words, don't complicate things, keep it simple, take the path of least resistance, the easiest and fastest way is usually the best way. Believe and take God at His word if you claim to believe His word (the bible) is truth.
Back to number crunching! So far we've added the first section of 1656 years from creation to the flood and the second section of 292 years from the flood to Terah's three sons {including Abraham} and we are now at 1948 years from creation to Terah's age at the birth of at least one of his three sons. Let's continue ...
100 Isaac born, son of Abraham {Abram} Genesis 21:4-5
60 Jacob {& Esau} born, son{s} of Isaac Genesis 25:24-26
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160 years, from Abram's (Abraham) birth to the birth of Jacob
*** Now to subtotal the years, by the book, adding 160 years to the 1948 (1656 + 292) years above: 1948 + 160 (100 + 60), which brings us to 2108 years from creation to the birth of Jacob.
1948 years, from the flood to the birth of Abram (Abraham)
160 years, from Abram's (Abraham) birth to the birth of Jacob
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2108 years, from creation to Jacob's birth
*** THIS IS THE END OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE FATHERS' AGES AT SONS' BIRTHS ***
The LORD renames Jacob to Israel ...
"And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed." {Genesis 32:28}
Since the fathers/sons information has now dried up, we glean yet more info, but still, by the book, to add in more years. The next -significant- mention of Jacob, as relating to our *math*, is that he enters Egypt when he is 130 years old (confirmed by the fact that he lives in Egypt for 17 years and he dies in Egypt at the age of 147; 147-17=130 being his age when he enters Egypt).
130 years, Jacob's age when he enters Egypt Genesis 47:7-9, 47:28
Then we see that Israel {Jacob's clan} were in the land of Egypt for 430 years.
430 years, Israel in the land of Egypt Exodus 12:40-41; Galatians 3:17
{includes the years of bondage thereof, the Jews only count 210 years +/-}
Now we add the 480 years from the time Israel {Jacob's clan} left Egypt (after the 430 years) until the 4th year of king Solomon's reign when he began to build the first temple (Solomon's Temple).
480 years, Solomon's 4th year reign 1 Kings 6:1
*** Now to subtotal the years, by the book, let's add 130 + 430 + 480, and we come to a total of 1040 years.
130 years, Jacob's age when he enters Egypt
430 years, Israel in the land of Egypt
480 years, Solomon's 4th year reign, he begins to build the 1st Temple
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1040 years, subtotaling (130 + 430 + 480) above
And then add those 1040 years to our 2108 years above (ages of fathers' at sons' births)
1040 years, subtotaling (130 + 430 + 480) above
2108 years, from creation by adding ages of fathers' at -significant- sons' births
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3148 years, from creation to king Solomon's 4th year (reign)
I now have to figure out how many years from king Solomon's fourth year (reign) to the time of Jesus' birth. This is purely speculation, no one knows for sure. My AM year (see previous articles) for creation came out to 3982 BC. So, continuing with that I would subtract 3148 from 3982 and the resulting years difference is 834. So, to 3148 above, I would then add 834 years, which brings us to 3982 years from creation to the birth year of Jesus. To see if I'm in the ballpark with *anyone* in cyberspace I went searching for 834 BC or 834 years since Solomon's 4th year where he began to build the 1st temple and I found two sources: Chabad.org and Askmoses.org, both of which show 833 years, or 833 BC(E) from king Solomon's 4th year (reign) to the beginning of our current Roman dating of AD (aka: CE). I'm still using my own figure of 834 BC in my figures because ... it's my page ;o} Here's a link to my previous *math* for 3982 being the year of creation ... https://thelambswife.blogspot.com/2016/04/041016-math-3982-bcam-to-2018-ad.html
3148 years, from creation to king Solomon's 4th year (reign)
834 years, from king Solomon's 4th year (reign) to the birth of Jesus
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3982 years, from creation to the birth of Jesus
Some will object ...
- "Blah, blah, blah!?" I'll get to those later LOL For now, let's continue to crunch the numbers!
3982 years, from creation to the birth of Jesus
2018 years, since Jesus' birth, which happens to be *this* year
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6000 years, from creation to 2018 (we are here)
Some will object ... OK! On to the objections! Are y'all still with me???
- "This year, 2018, is actually *still* 2017!" OK then. That would, of course, be if you are looking at the biblical months beginning at Nisan (Mar/Apr in our totally messed up Greco/Roman calendar, more on that below). You won't get any argument from me that God said that Nisan is the beginning of months! "This month [shall be] unto you the beginning of months: it [shall be] the first month of the year to you." {Exodus 12:2} Notice it says the "beginning of months" and it shall be "the first month of the year to you." You need to understand that there are FOUR New Years (five if a Jubilee year) in the Jewish year. Nisan and Tishri are the two main ones, I'll post links below and you can study that out yourselves.
- "This year is ____ (insert your year here), not 3982!" ...or... "The Jews say this is 5778!!!" I'll address that later. One friend (who inspired this article LOL) says he has this year as 3983 as being still equivalent to 2017, which he believes won't end until the Hebrew year ends on Mar 21st, that being Nisan 1 on the Hebrew calendar. Meaning (for him) that 2017 doesn't end until Nisan 1. He is right! But then, so am I! Check out what I'll write below, hopefully it'll clarify and not further confuse 0.o All in all, this is my own math, you may come to something else.
What my friend and I do agree on is that this year is 6000 from creation, we just differ slightly as to when that year starts/ends. His math: 3983 + 2017 = 6000! My math 3982 + 2018 = 6000! How can this be!??? There is no discrepancy between us using years from creation. The discrepancy lays in the Greco/Roman years of 2017-2018 -vs- the Hebrew calendar (not the Jewish year of 5777-5778, they are off by 222 years as I state in my NOTES below).
My friend is thinking that the year begins in spring, Mar/Apr ... or Nisan in the Hebrew reckoning.
My thinking is the year begins in the fall, Sep/Oct ... or Tishri in the Hebrew reckoning.
We are both right. But ... let us not confuse our *Greco/Roman* mindset with the correct Hebrew reckoning, this causes division. The key is to understand the differences between the Hebrew months of Nisan, and Tishri, and why those differences are important. As to which is THE "new year", there's just too much info for either/or so I'll post links below and you can decide for yourselves. Could it be there is a dual fulfillment on the celestial Hebrew calendar, that being of Nisan, and of Tishri, just like much of prophecy? Just sayin'. Just as some believe (Mar/Apr) Nisan is more important, I believe that (Sep/Oct) Tishri is just as important for, at the very least, a jubilee year, which I believe Sep 2017-Sep 2018 are just that, a jubilee, based on other years that end in 7/8s as relating to Israel. I'll post some links to websites with pros/cons for each are listed below, have at 'em!
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Based on Tishri (Sep/Oct) being the Jewish "new year", I believe our King/Messiah, Jesus {Yeshua}'s, first coming was in Tishri, whereby, "God with us" tabernacles (Sukkoth) among us. We call this His first coming. Jesus was likely not born in a stable but rather He was probably born under a Sukkah in the month of Tishri and my guess was it was the beginning of the Feast of Sukkot (Tabernacles). In truth, He has already fulfilled this feast/harvest at His first coming (birth). Let's remember, God does things by the Hebrew calendar, not by our secular Gregorian calendar. He suffered, died, and resurrected, and many others were resurrected after His resurrection, during the spring, at the Jews' Passover & Feast of Firstfruits; He gave the gift of the seal of God, the Holy Spirit, at the Jews' Shavuot (Feast of Weeks, aka: Pentecost). I believe He will return for His bride sometime within these months (Mar-Aug) for the great summer harvest. As to His birth month ... I know, many will disagree, saying His birth was in the spring, Passover, citing that He would have been born when all lambs are born ... we can agree to disagree. He was crucified, buried, and resurrected in the spring during Passover and Firstfruits, on that we can agree ;o}
Then we have what Paul called the mystery of the church age, the church (believers) being the bride of Christ. Many people say we (the church) were *born* on Pentecost (Shavuot), at the end of the counting of the Omer, the Feast of Weeks when in fact we were not born, but rather, conceived. We are not yet born into our newly resurrected bodies, therefore I say the church/bride was conceived, not born. We've been baking for almost two thousand years during the "times of the Gentiles" and our birth is imminent when the Lord comes to meet us in the air whereby we shall be with Him where ever He is, for all eternity. The church is nowhere mentioned in the old testament, though it is hinted at here and there. It was not understood until the apostle Paul had the revelation of Christ gathering a bride unto Himself. This gathering will conclude just prior to Jacob's {Israel's} trouble.
I believe this gathering to Him could be anytime from now (the writing of this article) up until Sep/Oct 2018, IF this year, and possibly beyond if Hanukkah is relevant and we're still here. I say this as a huge IF ... as in IF it were this year (as opposed to perhaps next year or some other year future). I am NOT saying it is this year so don't go there with me. I freely admit my figures above *could be* off/wrong by up to 3 years +/- because we can't be sure when king Solomon's 4th year (reign) was, and we don't know for certain what year Jesus was born, and then there's the muddy waters of the Greco/Roman calendar verses the Hebrew months calendar. what I write here, or anywhere for that matter, is simply my own *educated* (or uneducated, if that makes you happy) guess. I am not claiming "thus saith the Lord". Ultimately, He will come for us ... when He comes for us. My suggestion: be ready, be watching, our redemption is certainly nearer than when we first believed!
Why I believe this year (from: Sep 2017 to Sep 2018) is significant is because significant things happened in Israel during the years of: 1917-1918, 1947-1948, 1967-1968 ... if the pattern of 7/8s continues it would stand to reason that 2017-2018 is likewise significant, right!? What exactly happened within each of those years???
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1917-1918 = 5678-5679
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1917, Nov 2 - Balfour Declaration
Friday, November 2, 1917 was Cheshvan 17, 5678
1918, Nov 11 - At the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month, WWI ends, collapse of Ottoman Empire's rule over Israel
Monday, November 11, 1918 was Kislev 7, 5679
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1947-1948 = 5707-5708
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1947, Feb 14 - British Government Refers the Question of the Future of Palestine to the United Nations
Friday, February 14, 1947 was Shevat 24, 5707
1947, Nov 29 - United Nations Partitions (GA 181) Palestine into Jewish and Palestinian States; Jews accept, Arabs (Palestinians) decline
Saturday, November 29, 1947 was Kislev 16, 5708
1948, May 14 - Israel Declares Its Independence
Friday, May 14, 1948 was Iyar 5, 5708
1948, May 15 - First Arab-Israeli War Begins
Saturday, May 15, 1948 was Iyar 6, 5708
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1967-1968 = 5727-5728
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May 1967 - Egypt Closes the Straits of Aqaba to Israeli Shipping after UN Emergency Force Troops Withdraw
May 1967 was Nissan or Iyar 5727 (depending on exact date, unknown)
Jun 5, 1967 - "Six-Day War" Takes Place
Monday, June 5, 1967 was Iyar 26, 5727
Sep 1, 1967 - Arab Summit Conference Held in Khartoum (Sudan) Declares That Israel Will Not Be Recognized
Friday, September 1, 1967 was Av 26, 5727
Nov 22, 1967 - UN Security Council Passes Resolution (242)
Wednesday, November 22, 1967 was Cheshvan 19, 5728
Jun 1968 - Egypt's War of Attrition (1968-1970) against Israel "officially" begins
June 1968 was Sivan or Tammuz 5728 (depending on exact date, unknown)
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2017-2018 = 5777-5778
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Dec 6, 2017 - US President Donald J. Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital; will move US embassy from Tel Aviv (Jaffa) to Jerusalem by 2019
Wednesday, December 6, 2017 was Kislev 18, 5778
Hebrew begin/end dates from HebCal &/or here Chabad (more links below).
Soon, IMHO, the church/bride will be resurrected/raptured {Matthew 25:1-13} and taken to the Father's house {Heaven} and the Lord will "shut the door". Then, comes Jacob/Israel's trouble lasting up to seven years and ending with the second coming of King/Messiah Jesus {Yeshua}, Who will rescue them from utter destruction. I believe His second coming will occur in the month of Tishri (Sep/Oct) when He comes to: be gloried and crowned King of kings and Lord of lords; and to rule and reign on this earth from Jerusalem (with His church/bride) for 1000 years; God with us, on earth, once again to tabernacle with His people; when He comes to recover His people {Israel} a second time {Isaiah 11:11}.
.:: THREE HARVESTS, THREE RESURRECTIONS ::.
I covered this in other articles so I'll not do it again here since I don't have any more revelation to speak of to date. Also, notice the -dates- of these articles, which of course will -differ- from this current year ... https://thelambswife.blogspot.com/search?q=three+harvests
NOTES:
- AM = Anno Mundi, years since/from creation
- BC = Before Christ (seculars call it BCE, Before the Common Era)
- AD = Anno Domini, from/after Christ's birth (seculars call it CE, the Common Era)
- IMHO = In My Honest Opinion
- Some Jews only count 210-222 years (depending on which of their versions you go with) of Israel's time in Egypt, this is the *main reason* they have their current year at 5778 from creation -vs- what I believe (by the math shown above) that we're in year 6000 right now (Sep 22, 2017 through Sep/Oct 2018). I stuck to the word of God, without changing it to *suit* my theology.
- Greco/Roman calendars, what a mess of confusion! See links below on calendar differences and note that at one point the Roman calendar had 8-day weeks! Is it any wonder it's wrong in so many ways!?
"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." {Romans 3:4}
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." -Jesus {John 17:17}
Regarding Herod the Great's death, and subsequently Jesus' birth, ultimately, we cannot know for sure. But, my figures are NOT based on BC/AD Greco/Roman dates, only that I try to correlate the "from creation" AM dates with our Greco/Roman calendar of BC/AD to try to show where we are in HIS-story (history) from creation.
Here's some links to get you started, all links should open in a new window ...
http://hope-of-israel.org/herodsdeath.html
https://strangenotions.com/jesus-birth-and-when-herod-the-great-really-died/
https://hermetic.ch/cal_stud/ph01.htm
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/herods-death-jesus-birth-and-a-lunar-eclipse/
More links, or do your own web searches for particular keywords of interest ...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Calendar/calendar.html
http://www.betemunah.org/rains.html
http://www.betemunah.org/calendar.html
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3915966/jewish/Timeline-of-Jewish-History.htm
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/144569/jewish/The-First-Temple.htm
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/173,2107657/Timeline-of-Jewish-History.html
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/how-rosh-hashanah-became-new-years-day/
https://therefinersfire.org/two_new_years.htm
http://www.karaite-korner.org/holidays.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calendars
And yet more links ...
http://zionism-israel.com/his/Israel_and_Jews_before_the_state_timeline.htm
http://www.zionism-israel.com/Balfour_Declaration_1917.htm
https://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000031
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/world-war-i-ends
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Attrition#1968
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/History/Pages/Facts%20about%20Israel-%20History.aspx
OK if you've gotten past all that, and read the linked pages and done your own research/searching, here's more stuff to give you food for thought, the *down side* as it were. Consider ... "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." {1 Corinthians 13:12}
Without changing what my KJV bible plainly says, I quote ... "And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran." {Genesis 11:26}. I'm simply crunching the numbers "by the book" and indeed have done so all the way from Adam to Jacob/Israel entering into Egypt as far as fathers/sons count goes. To say this passage is incorrect is to say the bible has errors, I don't believe it does. We have to go to extra biblical books, and/or others' opinions to make that change to 130. For what it's worth, almost EVERY translation and otherwise, such as the Book of Jasher (more on this in my next article) say "seventy". I think it's an error to change anything, right down to the 'jot' or 'tittle'. Rather, many don't correctly understand the written word regarding the timing of Abraham leaving Haran. I'm simply taking the bible as it's written and continuing on down to Jacob/Israel entering Egypt, etc, as the bible states. Honestly, I believe the writer put that 70 years there on purpose, so I roll with it. To avoid argument, instead of putting Abraham, I've done the dumbed down thing and put 'the birth of (one of) Terah's three sons'. Seriously tho, we could avoid a lot of *discussion* if we'd just take the bible at it's word. Biblically, I can get all the way to Solomon's 4th year, thereafter I cannot prove true or not, I have to wing it by faith just like everyone else.
I remember a time I was thinking (parroting) how the bible was written by some 40 authors (fallible men one and all) and may have mistakes thereby ... when all of a sudden the Lord *put a sock in it* ... and said to me, "So, I'm not able to get my word down to you in-tact over the millennia? What kind of God am I to you!?" Ya, He seemed annoyed. Well ... He's right. I had Him in a mighty small box to conform to what I'd heard. I've grown quite a bit since then. His word is true, exactly as it's written, whether we understand it or not makes absolutely NO difference. I have to conform to what the word says, not change it to match what I think it says. So, I choose to trust when it says: Terah was 70 at the three sons' births, mentioned in that passage was Abram and his two brothers, maybe they were triplets ... who's to say? I think people get side tracked by such things. I put that question to the Lord and asked if there was another line to follow and He told me to continue but not worry about perceived (by others) discrepancies regarding Terah & Abraham, rather to continue from Jacob's life, and so I've done. That's where I'm at and why I'm there ;o}
As I said, what I cannot prove is:
1) The exact year of Jesus' birth, there are many *theories*, I lean towards -3BC (which I believe may be the equivalent of the Greco/Roman calendar of 1AD). However, it could well be -1BC=1AD, which would work great with my math above; and
2) When exactly was the 4th year of Solomon's reign, again, there are *many* theories, but what I show above is what I believe is true and that is 834 BC. Askmoses.org and Chabad.org (both having the same source, links above) put it as 833 BC(E). Others put it at 966 BC(E). As I said tho, I'm sticking to what I came up with a few years ago, that being 834 BC. After king Solomon's 4th year as stated in the bible, the rest is anyone's guess. I freely admit I may be in error ... as I've already said, this is not a "thus saith the Lord" kind of post/article.
Other things that muddy the waters are how the Roman calendar was in the past ... in their history they've had years where weeks consisted of eight days making up a week, or so I read: "The Romans had an eight-day week, with the market-day falling every eight days. It was called a nundinum or 'nine-day' in inclusive counting." (more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calendars); they've renamed months to add to the confusion, the four remaining months that can be correlated to the Hebrew months are: September (Sept=7th), October (Oct=8th), November (Nov=9th), December (Dec=10th), all the other months were renamed for pagan gods &/or Roman rulers who thought they were gods. They attempted to wipe out any semblance of the Jews and thus the truth, even so, God prevails. So, IMHO, the Greco/Roman dating (BC/AD) is not trustworthy. Jesus lived under a Roman (Julian) calendar that today is some -13 days- behind our current Gregorian one. I've studied these things somewhat, until it gave me a headache and I wanted to quit. Unfortunately, our Greco/Roman BC/AD years are all we have to go by after king Solomon's 4th year (reign) since the bible doesn't specify any years after Solomon's 4th year (the year he began to build the 1st temple).
All of our math hinges on the secular year for when the 1st year of Solomon's temple began to the birth of Jesus, was it 966 BC or was it 834 BC (833 BCE for some Jews to get to 1AD as shown in the graphic since they don't believe in Jesus and don't refer to Him) ... we just can't know for sure. And then, do we go with the Jews calendar or Israel's calendar (after the kingdom split in two)? Check out the article links above for info on how the two kingdoms of Israel viewed the new year (one kingdom observed Nisan while the other observed Tishri ... so which kingdom was right?). Will the *real* new year please stand up! Nisan or Tishri ... or ... both!? Talk about your Assyrian/Babylonian confusion! Personally speaking, I think the Jews have it right on this one. Why do I think that? Because the Lord said He'd save the tents of Judah (the Jews) first so that Israel would not be able to magnify themselves against Judah {Zechariah 12}. And so He has done. The word "Jews" is short for Jewish but even before that it represented the tribe of Judah in the land of Judea (southern kingdom, with Jerusalem as its capital).
And then there's the issue of which chronological version is correct? The Masoretic (KJV, what I'm using), the Septuagint (LXX), the Seder Olam, Judaism, Isaac Newton's chronology, Bishop Ussher's chronology, the teachings of the: Mishna, Krishna, or Buddha, or instead of dating from Jesus' birth, perhaps we should be dating from Jesus' death/resurrection, and what year exactly was that; there are likewise many opinions to choose from, I tend to believe it was 30AD (possibly 33AD). On and on throughout the ages the confusion goes. I have to believe at least one bible has to be correct -as written-, no mistakes/errors; I choose the KJV (Masoretic). Others swear by other bibles such as the Septuagint (LXX), or the Geneva, or the Wycliffe (all differ a little here and there, except the LXX which differs a lot in chronology). If we consider the LXX then those of us that believe this is year 6000 (2017-2018) are *done* as far as the math goes because time would now be WAY OVER 6000 years. If Ussher was right then we're now 22 years over 6000. Newton believed the rapture would be closer to 2060! If Judaism is right and we're only at year 5778 from creation then we've got 222 years to wait! Many believe 6000 years from creation doesn't matter ... ???really??? ... that just *happens* to correlate with a 7-day week whereby the 7th day (1000 years more) is a time of rest during Jesus' millennial reign! Others tell me by their counts it'll be in 2028 saying that Jesus died in 28AD therefore you add 2000 years and voila, 2028 AD is the year of the rapture! Quit frankly, I hope & pray my figures are much closer to reality. Even so, I'd be willing to give my years a wide birth of +/-3 years ... although I truly hope it's this year, NOW would be great!!! However, +/-3 years would totally not mesh with the super significant years for Israel of: 1917-1918, 1947-1948, 1967-68 ... 2017-2018 ;o}
And, that's not getting into the whole can of worms as to whether a year is 365.2425 solar days, or 354 lunar days (29.5 days/mth x 12 months), or is it a *prophetic year* of 360 days, or maybe it's an Enochian/Essene year of 364 days? Were years different pre-flood -vs- post-flood to today? Maybe it's the Mazzaroth (celestial calendar)? You know, those gigantic symbols in the sky that we all date your days, months, seasons, and years by!? Did you know that the sun progresses through the sky on months that are different now then they were back in 3982? Really! I kid you not. My celestial birth sign is *suppose* to be the Scorpion (Scorpio) ... and NO I'm NOT talking about astrology (predicting your *future* via the *zodiac*, that's just plain playing with the devil), I'm talking about Astronomy (the study of the stars and God's celestial timeclock), completely different things ... anyway, the sun is no longer in Scorpio at my birthday as it us to be; same birth date (Nov 3) but nowadays the sun is in LIBRA during my birthday. Ask Stellarium! Go ahead, download that and look up your birthday with your birth year ...vs... 3982 BC ...or... 2018 AD ... where is the sun for each? Betcha it's not where you think it is! Darn! And some of you have been thinking you're daily *sign* readings are true LOL not! Oh, and what about leap years, leap months, and/or leap days? I chose to go with years as the bible states them believing that whoever wrote those years ... well, that was 'years' according to them and so they'd be right! I don't have to do any extra figuring or converting as others do and swear by. Likewise I did not try to figure out days or months, such as the flood began in the 2nd month, 17th day of the month, etc. I simply use the years given and believe the writers knew what they were talking about. I believe it all balances itself out over the span of time. And don't get me started on *Jubilees*. OK, lets! Many swear a jubilee has 49 years. I don't think so myself, the bible says 49+1 ... that equals 50 years. But does the jubilee start at Nisan or does it start at Tishri (six months later), yet more confusion. A good argument I read once was that the new year starts in Nisan and then six months later the Jubilee (if it's a jubilee year) so the 49th year begins in Nisan and six months later in Tishri the Jubilee starts the 50th year. IF that is true and we are in a Jubilee year (Sep 2017 to Sep 2018), then the Jubilee began in Tishri (Sep 2017). I've also read that Jewish tradition says Tishri is the month for Jubilees. Others, of course, would beg to differ. Perhaps the confusion we have is a result of the *duality* of scripture?
Another thing to consider, regarding the timing of Jesus coming for His church/bride, is ... IF He comes for us in the spring, will He hold off on beginning Jacob's trouble until the fall when He can then let them go through 7 years of said trouble? Or, does it make more sense that He may come during or at the end of the summer (maybe Shavuot/Pentecost or Tu B'Av) with Jacob's trouble of seven years beginning immediately thereafter? Will the world have peace and tranquility after we leave? I don't think so, I think it'll be plunged into utter chaos. Seven years from mid-late summer is much closer to His expected 2nd coming in Tishri (Sep/Oct) -vs- waiting six months and then starting Jacob's trouble and counting seven years, which would actually be 7-1/2 years.
Could these many differences be the reason He said no one will know the day nor the hour? Believe me, I'd much rather "we fly" sooner than later, going sooner than later is my first choice. But I'm not hanging my hopes and dreams on any timing since I've believed He would come a few times in the past and been highly disappointed when He didn't. Now, I wait, I watch, I hope, I am as ready as I can be ... EVERY DAY ... nothing being more important than that blissful wedding day to come. I find it quite encouraging that even though I went another line I still come to the year 6000, again, that's twice I've come to 2017-2018 being year 6000, by two different lines after Terah. So, let's keep looking up!
Please, don't believe the farce that "God is done with Israel", it's simply not true. The bible says: "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." {Romans 11:25} Notice, it says they {Israel} are blinded in part. Much of what they have recorded is still valid today, they just are blinded as to Whom the One is for which their writings point to: "And when he {Jesus} was come near, he beheld the city {Jerusalem}, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things [which belong] unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes." {Luke 19:41-42}
So, after all this, could I be wrong? Might my *math* be incorrect? Short answer: Yes. But, I *hope* not! God bless you in Jesus {Yeshua} our Messiah and Savior. May He come soon, in our lifetime. Maranatha Lord!
A strong word of caution: IF your date, or my date, comes and goes in 2018, try not to be so crushed that you stop looking altogether. God is in control. He sets the calendars, He calls the shots. It's His prerogative to tarry if for no other reason but pure grace and mercy to usward.
Thanks for reading.
{ALL scripture is KJV unless otherwise specified, you can mouseover &/or click to go to the source text. IF this article is Firefox Reader View friendly it'll be due FF finally getting around to properly allowing reader view for blogs. If any {Curly Bracket} comments are within scripture, they are my own addition for clarification purposes only. Minor corrections: 03/07/23}
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