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Jewish tradition expects two Messiahs, but what if it’s one—Jesus (YeshuaH יְשׁוּעָה)—in two comings? From Daniel’s sealed scroll to Revelation’s unsealing, gospel effects, and Israel’s harvest cycles, here’s how it points to a pre-trib Church bride rapture, mid-trib tribulation saints’ harvest, and post-trib Israel’s awakening. All AD dates are estimated.
Jewish Expectation of Two Messiahs
- Jewish tradition anticipates:
- Mashiach ben Joseph: A suffering servant preparing redemption (Talmud, Sukka 52a; Isaiah 53:5 KJV aligns, but there is nothing in scripture that says that the Messiah dies in battle).
- Mashiach ben David: A conquering king restoring Israel (Maimonides, Laws of Kings 11:1; Jeremiah 23:5 KJV).
- Rabbinic views add to scripture and are not biblical according to Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV, Deuteronomy 12:32 KJV, and relating to that is Matthew 5:18 KJV.
Christian Expectation: Jesus (YeshuaH) in Two Comings
- I see Jesus (YeshuaH יְשׁוּעָה, “Salvation”) fulfilling both:
- First Coming (27-30 AD): Suffering servant—baptized 27 AD (Luke 3:21-23 KJV), crucified, resurrected, ascended 30 AD (John 19:19 KJV, Acts 1:9 KJV) as “King of the Jews” (Isaiah 53:5 KJV) —not a battlefield death.
- Second Coming (2027-2030 AD): Conquering King—returns as “King of kings” (Revelation 19:16 KJV), rules with unmatched authority from Jerusalem (Revelation 19:15 KJV, Psalm 2:9 KJV, Zechariah 14:4 KJV).
From the time of the Lord's first coming - His death, resurrection, and ascension - until His second coming, I see how His-story (history) unfolds over the past 2000 years from the Book of Revelation, as well as Matthew 24 KJV, Mark 13 KJV, part of Luke 17 KJV, and Luke 21 KJV. Here's how I understand it all ... 😉
The Seven Seals of the Scroll of Daniel are Unsealed in the Book of Revelation
- Two Scrolls, Not One:
- The Book (Scroll) of Revelation is John recording his visions (Revelation 1:1-2 KJV), including what he sees Jesus (YeshuaH) doing (Revelation 5 KJV), which is breaking the seals of Daniel’s scroll, interpreting the seals of Daniel’s scroll (the seals on the outside of the scroll represent 2000 years worth of the "times of the Gentiles" as they relate to Matthew 24-25 KJV, Mark 13 KJV, Luke 17:33 KJV, Luke 21 KJV), and then reading the inside contents of Daniel’s scroll (trumpet & vial judgments). They are not the same book/scroll!
- Daniel’s Scroll: Sealed “till the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4 KJV, Daniel 12:9 KJV) —end-time events (Daniel 12:1-2 KJV).
- Jesus Opens Daniel’s Scroll:
- Revelation 5:5-7 KJV: Jesus (YeshuaH), “Lion of the tribe of Juda,” breaks all seven seals around 30 AD (likely after His ascension) —scroll stays closed (contents unread) until effects end (see below).
- Effects of the broken seals unfold for 2000 years—two heavenly days (2 Peter 3:8 KJV) since approximately 30 AD.
Seven Seals Effects: 2000 Years, as recorded in the Gospels
- Seal Effects (Revelation 6 KJV): Intensify as His second coming nears:
- False christs, prophets, teachers (Matthew 24:4-5 KJV, Mark 13:5-6 KJV, Luke 21:8 KJV, Revelation 6:1-2 KJV).
- Wars, rumors of wars (Matthew 24:6-7 KJV, Mark 13:7-8 KJV, Luke 21:9-10 KJV, Revelation 6:3-4 KJV).
- Famines (Matthew 24:7 KJV, Mark 13:8 KJV, Luke 21:11 KJV, Revelation 6:5-6 KJV).
- Earthquakes (Matthew 24:7 KJV, Mark 13:8 KJV, Luke 21:11 KJV, Revelation 6:12 KJV).
- Pestilences (Matthew 24:7 KJV, Luke 21:11 KJV, Revelation 6:7-8 KJV).
- Martyrs, trials (Matthew 24:9-14 KJV, Mark 13:9-13 KJV, Luke 17:33 KJV, Luke 21:12-19 KJV, Revelation 6:9-11 KJV).
- Signs (e.g., sun dark, moon blood—Luke 21:25 KJV, Revelation 6:12-17 KJV).
- Effects End: Pre-trib/pre-wrath rapture of the Church bride (Revelation 7:9-17 KJV, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV, Revelation 3:10 KJV, John 14:2-3 KJV, Matthew 24:42-51 KJV, Luke 12:35-48 KJV, Matthew 25:1-13 KJV, Hebrews 9:28 KJV).
Harvest Cycles: Three Resurrections/Raptures
- Three harvests:
- Barley Firstfruits (Passover Omer Offering): Jesus (YeshuaH) and Firstfruits saints resurrected 30 AD (Matthew 27:52-53 KJV) —first harvest (1 Corinthians 15:20 KJV).
- Main Harvest (possibly at Passover, Shavuot/Pentecost, or Tu B'Av): Church bride—wise virgins (Matthew 25:1-13 KJV) raptured pre-trib/pre-wrath (Revelation 7:9-17 KJV, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV, Revelation 3:10 KJV, John 14:2-3 KJV, Matthew 24:42-51 KJV, Luke 12:35-48 KJV, Hebrews 9:28 KJV) —second harvest.
- Gleanings (possibly at Tu B'Av or Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpets): Tribulation saints—foolish virgins, new converts during the first 1/2 of the tribulation period—raptured mid-trib (Revelation 14:14-16 KJV) post-two-witnesses (Revelation 11:11-12 KJV) —third harvest.
- Post-Trib Israel: Jesus (YeshuaH) returns (Revelation 19:11 KJV), splits Mount of Olives (earthquake, Zechariah 14:4 KJV), Israel mourns (Zechariah 12:10 KJV) and resurrects (Daniel 12:2 KJV) —Jesus (YeshuaH) reigns for 1000 years (Revelation 20:4 KJV).
Trumpets and Vials: Hear ye! Hear ye! Contents of Daniel's scroll
- Jesus (YeshuaH), opens the scroll, announcing (think Town Crier):
- Trumpets (Revelation 8-15 KJV): First 3½ years, “wrath of the Lamb” (Revelation 6:16 KJV) —third harvest mid-trib (Revelation 14:14-16 KJV).
- Vials (Revelation 16-19 KJV): Last 3½ years, “wrath of God” (Revelation 15:1 KJV), Jacob’s Trouble—Israel saved post-trib/post-wrath (Romans 11:26 KJV).
- Order: Three woes (Revelation 8:13 KJV, 9:12 KJV, 11:14 KJV) link trumpets to vials—happening within the 7-year tribulation, post-rapture.
- The book of Revelation is in consecutive order and we can know this for a certainty because: the seals are broken first, and you can’t read the contents of the scroll if the seals are intact, followed by the contents of the scroll being the trumpet & vial judgments, which are consecutively tied together by the three woes (the last three trumpet judgments). The seventh seal introduces the trumpet judgments (wrath of the Lamb); the seventh trumpet introduces the vial judgments (wrath of God). Also the words "and", "and then", "but", etc, keep the entire book in context and flowing smoothly and in consecutive order.
Conclusion
- Jewish tradition’s two Messiahs unite in Jesus (YeshuaH יְשׁוּעָה)—suffering servant then conquering king. His first coming (27-30 AD) unseals Daniel’s scroll—2000 years of effects (wars to signs) end at the pre-trib/pre-wrath rapture of the Church bride—then trumpets and vials unfold, harvesting saints mid-trib and Israel post-trib, mirroring Israel’s feast/harvest cycles. We 'rapture watchers' have hope that Jesus (YeshuaH) may return sometime prior to 2030 AD, per 2000 earthly years from the end of His ministry, which equates to two days in heaven! Departing seven years before His second coming!
- Although I use 27-30 AD and 2027-2030 AD as my years above, they are only guestimates at best, it seems that we're already past the 7 years potential if looking from 30-2030 AD because 2030 AD - 7 years is 2023 AD, which has already passed. So onward we go. Many are now watching 2032 AD as a potential return date, which puts the rapture sometime in 2025 AD (this year) ... we can hope! I'm still watching! Maranatha, King Jesus (YeshuaH)!
Thanks for the help and compiling this blog post from X's (formerly Twitter's) AI: GROK 3.