Is >2017 AD< significant to Christians & Messianics?
Here are my thoughts on the potential significance of 2017 AD, I am NOT date setting, I'm simply doing the math and posting my findings! I report, you decide because you alone are ultimately responsible for your own life choices ...
By
my math the Dome of the Rock (DotR) began to be erected in 682 AD as a
wooden structure, then around 688 AD they began to rebuild it as we see
today, completing it in 692 AD according to tradition. This is the
abomination that maketh desolate according
to Daniel, from the beginning of it's erection as a wooden structure it
has made the temple mount completely UN-usable to the Hebrews. If my
682 AD date is correct ...
.:: OLD TESTAMENT (COVENANT) ::.
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. {Dan 11:31 KJV}
And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. {Dan 12:11-12 KJV}
.:: NEW TESTAMENT (COVENANT) ::.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) - Jesus {Mat 24:15 KJV}
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: - Jesus {Mar 13:14 KJV}
I have, in previous posts, spelled this out but I feel it bears repeating due to the lateness of the hour so to speak ... here's my math once again:
682 AD + 1290 (years, not days) = 1972 AD
Now we add on the additional years Daniel spoke of from 1290 to 1335 ... a difference of an additional 45 years.
1972 AD + 45 (years) = 2017 AD
As I've said before, I could be off in my math by a couple of years either way but ... 2017 AD is significant math-wise in so many other relating ways regarding Hebrew/Israeli history ... such as (all of these explained in other posts):
1897 + 120 = 2017 (120 = Gen 6:3)
1917 + 100 = 2017 (100 = two Jubilees)
1947 + 70 = 2017 (70 years = Psa 90:10 & Isa 23:15)
1967 + 50 = 2017 (50 years = one Jubilee)
1972 + 45 = 2017 (45 years is the difference between 1290 & 1335 years)
Have a look here at "Key Dates in Israel's History" ... https://www.adl.org/education/resources/fact-sheets/key-dates-in-israels-history
It's uncanny how the years shown above are noteworthy years in Israel's history! I don't know what will happen in 2017 AD, I do believe it will be a significant year for believers in Jesus/Yeshua ... time will tell. BTW, all of the years above would be +/- a year, probably + ... such as: 1897-1898, 1917-1918, 1947-1948, 1967-1968, 1972-1973, 2017-2018 ... this would account for the Hebrew years starting in what we call today Sep/Oct rather than our Gregorian years starting in Jan.
One other note of interest is that Jesus said that He would come sooner than expected because if He doesn't no flesh would be saved. So, this may indicate His coming will be this year sometime, at least for His bride, the church. This year (which began on Tishri 1-2, 5776 correlating with our Sep 14-15, 2015) is believed to be a Jubilee year, a year of release. It may be the Lord allows the devil his reign up until the last day of this Jubilee year before He returns to take back what is rightfully His.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. - Jesus {Mat 24:22}
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. - Jesus {Mar 13:20}
Isaiah tells us WHO the elect/chosen are:
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. {Isa 43:10-12}
I don't know about you but I surely consider myself to be a *witness* to the saving grace of my Lord & Savior Jesus/Yeshua and therefore I am counted among the elect/chosen. I will do another post sometime about WHO are the chosen/elect/witnesses (as I understand the subject) because there is much more info on this in the bible.
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. - Jesus {Mat 20:16}
For many are called, but few are chosen. - Jesus {Mat 22:14}
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. {Jhn 20:29}
I'll be watching, as Jesus instructed, I hope you will be too!
And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. - Jesus {Mar 13:37}
Thanks for reading my post today, I consider myself a "Porter" {a Doorkeeper - Watcher - Guardian} at the door and nothing more.
Maranatha (COME) Lord!
{Curly bracket comments are mine. Red letter text is quoting Jesus in the NT; blue letter text is quoting the LORD in the OT. KJV used unless otherwise specified. Updated 08/06/16 to include this section and to enlarge the text for easier reading.}
01/01/16 ~ four sore judgments, four horses/horsemen ...
THESE are the "four horsemen of the apocalypse" ...
Eze 14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?
* the sword
* the famine
* the noisome beast
* the pestilence
Better explained here ...
1Ch 21:8-11 And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing {see 1Ch 21:17}: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly. And the LORD spake unto Gad, David's seer, saying, Go and tell David, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee. So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee
1Ch 21:12 Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.
And in Jeremiah we see ...
Jer 21:7 And afterward, saith the LORD, I will deliver Zedekiah king of Judah, and his servants, and the people, and such as are left in this city from the pestilence, from the sword, and from the famine, into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of those that seek their life: and he shall smite them with the edge of the sword; he shall not spare them, neither have pity, nor have mercy.
You can read more on your own here, as I did a BLB search for "sword" and "pestilence" but you could change the search to "sword" and "famine" or "famine" and "pestilence" and get even MORE results! https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sword*+pestilence*&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
These "four sore judgments" are also seen in Zechariah ...
Zec 1:8-12 I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that [were] in the bottom; and behind him [were there] red horses, speckled, and white. Then said I, O my lord, what [are] these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these [be]. And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These [are they] whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest. Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years? {As you can see, these *horses* represented the sword, famine, and pestilence in the scattering of Israel into Babylon.}
* red horses
* speckled horses
* white horses
No black horses mentioned above but they are mentioned later as an added judgment ... along with chariots ... again, from Zechariah ...
Zec 6:1-8 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains [were] mountains of brass. In the first chariot [were] red horses; and in the second chariot black horses; And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What [are] these, my lord? And the angel answered and said unto me, These [are] the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth. The black horses which [are] therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country. And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth. Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these {black and white} that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
* red horses
* black horses
* white horses
* grisled and bay horses
The "two mountains" of Zec 6 represent two heads or two kingly leaders or two kingdoms/empires {Rev 17:9}, and being of brass probably signifies they were out of the Grecian (belly) empire that became the Roman & Ottoman (thighs) empires {Dan 2:32}. More on Dan 2's statue and how they become the beast(s) of Revelation at another time, God willing.
Now let's move on to John in Revelation, when the Lamb (Yeshua/Jesus) breaks the first four seals, and see if we can't put the puzzle together using the clues above ...
Rev 6:1-8 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
* white horse
* red horse
* black horse
* pale horse
NOTE that the seals began to be broken when the Lamb (Yeshua/Jesus) ARRIVED AT THE THRONE IN HEAVEN (as we see in Rev 5, since He alone is the only One worthy to open the sealed book -the sealed book of Dan 12!)
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
John was instructed to NOT seal up his book of Revelation, which is the revealing of Daniel's book ...
Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
And how can we know when the "time of the end" is? John tells us ...
1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Jesus told John, "the time is at hand". This means Yeshua/Jesus has been breaking the seals since His resurrection, these are not things to come ... they have been happening for the past two thousand years -to God it's only been two days- and as the time remaining gets shorter these things will happen with more frequency & intensity. John wrote both books, 1John and Revelation, within his own lifetime, probably within just a few years of each other.
So now, the thing we need to do is to go back and study, rather ... compare, Daniel's sealed prophecy to John's revealed prophecy. For now tho, it is my hope that this post has shed some light on the horses/horsemen of the bible. They are, and always have been, God's "four sore judgments" for a backsliding, idolatrous people, whether they be Israel/Judah or any other nation proclaiming to belong to Him.
It is interesting to note that there are currently 12 nations bearing ALL FOUR of these colors in their national flags, those colors being: red, green (bay = Greek: chloros), black, and white. Of those 12 nations, 3 are not *fully recognized* as nations, leaving us with a count of nine that are fully recognized ... but ... ONE of those three nations is in the process of recognition ... can you guess which one? When that occurs, and I believe that will be soon, there will be 10 fully recognized nations with all four colors in their national flags. Could this be the conglomeration necessary to form the 10 nation beast? Time will tell!
03/28/16 ~ Thanks to my husband for pointing out some additional info that I'm adding here.
Although this article is mostly about the colors of the horses/horsemen and what they may represent as seen in both the OT & the NT, this new revelation is of interest so I've added it here. There are yet other, BIGGER, nations with some of the "four horsemen colors":
1) Saudi Arabia's flag (not listed above) only has two of the four colors.
2) Egypt's flag (not listed above) only has two of the four colors.
3) Iran's flag (not listed above, aspiring for nuclear power) has three of the four colors.
4) Pakistan's flag (not listed above, a nuclear power) has two of the four colors.
5) China's flag is red (one of the four colors) and yellow.
6) Russia's flag is red, white (two of the four colors) and blue.
7) USA's flag is red, white (two of the four colors) and blue.
The point being, if all four colors possibly represent the end-time beast kingdom of 10 heads and 7 horns from Daniel's beast prophecies that also relate to John's beast(s) in Revelation; then they don't include the nations that only have some of the colors but not all ... or ... those that don't have all the colors play a lesser role, if any. So, the nations/kingdoms such as: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, China, Russia, and USA ... not having ALL FOUR colors, but having some of the colors ... may, or may not, be significant. They either play a small role, perhaps being the driving forces behind the ones that do have all four colors ... or ... they play no role at all. It's interesting to note that Iraq does have all four colors, yet today it is not a *major* world power.
I am more inclined to believe the four horsemen of the first four seals in Revelation 6 are not specific to nations but actually relate to God's four sore judgments sent into all the earth as I noted above.
As for the beast(s) of Daniel & Revelation, my personal feeling is that it may be the UN, which (I think) at some point in the future will recognize 'Palestine' as a nation and set the land of the -state of Israel- back to the 1967 so-called borders (with mutual land swaps) ... this of course will cause a war. Unless, they can get Israel to attack Iran to avoid allowing Iran to get itself nuclear capable. I suppose time will tell.
Here's another interesting graphic, this one shows 8 of the 12 nations with all four colors.
I believe that these four horses/horsemen were released when "the Lamb that was slain" {Jesus ~ Yeshua, of Revelation chapter 5} arrived at the throne of God in heaven. IMHO, five of the "seven seals" have been open for almost 2,000 years and their destruction is well documented from then until now. As time gets closer for Jesus {Yeshua} to return, these signs will become more frequent and severe, just like birth pangs. The kingdom of God is about to be revealed. More on how I come to that understanding can be found in another article I did here ... http://thelambswife.blogspot.com/2016/01/011116-will-jesus-come-for-his-bride.html
Even so, whether the horses represent the nations/kingdoms listed with all four colors, or only some of the colors, or don't relate at all, I am going to keep looking up ... our redemption draweth nigh. I do believe that Jesus {Yeshua} IS coming soon!
I hope you have enjoyed this post. Thanks for reading ;o}
{Revised: 09/21/16, fixed a typo, made the text larger for easier reading.
Revised: 03/28/16, corrected a couple of typos, added info about bigger nation flags, a link to another of my blog posts, more of my thoughts, and I added another graphic. I did not create the graphics shown, I saw them on posts in facebook, I have no idea who made them. Curly bracket comments within scriptures are mine; KJV used throughout this site. Blue text is God speaking; Red text is Jesus speaking.}
Eze 14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?
* the sword
* the famine
* the noisome beast
* the pestilence
Better explained here ...
1Ch 21:8-11 And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing {see 1Ch 21:17}: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly. And the LORD spake unto Gad, David's seer, saying, Go and tell David, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things: choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee. So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee
1Ch 21:12 Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.
And in Jeremiah we see ...
Jer 21:7 And afterward, saith the LORD, I will deliver Zedekiah king of Judah, and his servants, and the people, and such as are left in this city from the pestilence, from the sword, and from the famine, into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of those that seek their life: and he shall smite them with the edge of the sword; he shall not spare them, neither have pity, nor have mercy.
You can read more on your own here, as I did a BLB search for "sword" and "pestilence" but you could change the search to "sword" and "famine" or "famine" and "pestilence" and get even MORE results! https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=sword*+pestilence*&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
These "four sore judgments" are also seen in Zechariah ...
Zec 1:8-12 I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that [were] in the bottom; and behind him [were there] red horses, speckled, and white. Then said I, O my lord, what [are] these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these [be]. And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These [are they] whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest. Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years? {As you can see, these *horses* represented the sword, famine, and pestilence in the scattering of Israel into Babylon.}
* red horses
* speckled horses
* white horses
No black horses mentioned above but they are mentioned later as an added judgment ... along with chariots ... again, from Zechariah ...
Zec 6:1-8 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains [were] mountains of brass. In the first chariot [were] red horses; and in the second chariot black horses; And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What [are] these, my lord? And the angel answered and said unto me, These [are] the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth. The black horses which [are] therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country. And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth. Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these {black and white} that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
* red horses
* black horses
* white horses
* grisled and bay horses
The "two mountains" of Zec 6 represent two heads or two kingly leaders or two kingdoms/empires {Rev 17:9}, and being of brass probably signifies they were out of the Grecian (belly) empire that became the Roman & Ottoman (thighs) empires {Dan 2:32}. More on Dan 2's statue and how they become the beast(s) of Revelation at another time, God willing.
Now let's move on to John in Revelation, when the Lamb (Yeshua/Jesus) breaks the first four seals, and see if we can't put the puzzle together using the clues above ...
Rev 6:1-8 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
* white horse
* red horse
* black horse
* pale horse
NOTE that the seals began to be broken when the Lamb (Yeshua/Jesus) ARRIVED AT THE THRONE IN HEAVEN (as we see in Rev 5, since He alone is the only One worthy to open the sealed book -the sealed book of Dan 12!)
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
John was instructed to NOT seal up his book of Revelation, which is the revealing of Daniel's book ...
Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
And how can we know when the "time of the end" is? John tells us ...
1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Jesus told John, "the time is at hand". This means Yeshua/Jesus has been breaking the seals since His resurrection, these are not things to come ... they have been happening for the past two thousand years -to God it's only been two days- and as the time remaining gets shorter these things will happen with more frequency & intensity. John wrote both books, 1John and Revelation, within his own lifetime, probably within just a few years of each other.
So now, the thing we need to do is to go back and study, rather ... compare, Daniel's sealed prophecy to John's revealed prophecy. For now tho, it is my hope that this post has shed some light on the horses/horsemen of the bible. They are, and always have been, God's "four sore judgments" for a backsliding, idolatrous people, whether they be Israel/Judah or any other nation proclaiming to belong to Him.
It is interesting to note that there are currently 12 nations bearing ALL FOUR of these colors in their national flags, those colors being: red, green (bay = Greek: chloros), black, and white. Of those 12 nations, 3 are not *fully recognized* as nations, leaving us with a count of nine that are fully recognized ... but ... ONE of those three nations is in the process of recognition ... can you guess which one? When that occurs, and I believe that will be soon, there will be 10 fully recognized nations with all four colors in their national flags. Could this be the conglomeration necessary to form the 10 nation beast? Time will tell!
Red, green, black and white
Afghanistan
Iraq
Jordan
Kenya
Kuwait
Libya
Palestine (de facto state, limited recognition)
Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (de facto state, limited recognition)
Sudan
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Somaliland (de facto state, limited recognition)
03/28/16 ~ Thanks to my husband for pointing out some additional info that I'm adding here.
Although this article is mostly about the colors of the horses/horsemen and what they may represent as seen in both the OT & the NT, this new revelation is of interest so I've added it here. There are yet other, BIGGER, nations with some of the "four horsemen colors":
1) Saudi Arabia's flag (not listed above) only has two of the four colors.
2) Egypt's flag (not listed above) only has two of the four colors.
3) Iran's flag (not listed above, aspiring for nuclear power) has three of the four colors.
4) Pakistan's flag (not listed above, a nuclear power) has two of the four colors.
5) China's flag is red (one of the four colors) and yellow.
6) Russia's flag is red, white (two of the four colors) and blue.
7) USA's flag is red, white (two of the four colors) and blue.
The point being, if all four colors possibly represent the end-time beast kingdom of 10 heads and 7 horns from Daniel's beast prophecies that also relate to John's beast(s) in Revelation; then they don't include the nations that only have some of the colors but not all ... or ... those that don't have all the colors play a lesser role, if any. So, the nations/kingdoms such as: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, China, Russia, and USA ... not having ALL FOUR colors, but having some of the colors ... may, or may not, be significant. They either play a small role, perhaps being the driving forces behind the ones that do have all four colors ... or ... they play no role at all. It's interesting to note that Iraq does have all four colors, yet today it is not a *major* world power.
I am more inclined to believe the four horsemen of the first four seals in Revelation 6 are not specific to nations but actually relate to God's four sore judgments sent into all the earth as I noted above.
As for the beast(s) of Daniel & Revelation, my personal feeling is that it may be the UN, which (I think) at some point in the future will recognize 'Palestine' as a nation and set the land of the -state of Israel- back to the 1967 so-called borders (with mutual land swaps) ... this of course will cause a war. Unless, they can get Israel to attack Iran to avoid allowing Iran to get itself nuclear capable. I suppose time will tell.
Here's another interesting graphic, this one shows 8 of the 12 nations with all four colors.
I believe that these four horses/horsemen were released when "the Lamb that was slain" {Jesus ~ Yeshua, of Revelation chapter 5} arrived at the throne of God in heaven. IMHO, five of the "seven seals" have been open for almost 2,000 years and their destruction is well documented from then until now. As time gets closer for Jesus {Yeshua} to return, these signs will become more frequent and severe, just like birth pangs. The kingdom of God is about to be revealed. More on how I come to that understanding can be found in another article I did here ... http://thelambswife.blogspot.com/2016/01/011116-will-jesus-come-for-his-bride.html
Even so, whether the horses represent the nations/kingdoms listed with all four colors, or only some of the colors, or don't relate at all, I am going to keep looking up ... our redemption draweth nigh. I do believe that Jesus {Yeshua} IS coming soon!
I hope you have enjoyed this post. Thanks for reading ;o}
{Revised: 09/21/16, fixed a typo, made the text larger for easier reading.
Revised: 03/28/16, corrected a couple of typos, added info about bigger nation flags, a link to another of my blog posts, more of my thoughts, and I added another graphic. I did not create the graphics shown, I saw them on posts in facebook, I have no idea who made them. Curly bracket comments within scriptures are mine; KJV used throughout this site. Blue text is God speaking; Red text is Jesus speaking.}
12/29/15 ~ Is *cloning* a new scientific idea?
Today's post is inspired by an article I saw online about cloned pet dogs. Well, come to find out that "Dolly, the sheep" hasn't been the only clone! There are many clones these days, and people are paying BIG BUCKS to get their deceased pets cloned, paying thousands and even millions of dollars to do so.
Nothing's new in the world ...
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. {Note these "men of renown", these are the Greek & Roman *gods* (among other mythical gods), and the mythical creatures we've heard of such as centaurs (half man, half horse), etc, arise from these corruptions as well. See more below on the "mixing" of man & animal alike.}
See also Strong's H5303 {giants, the Nephilim} https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H5303&t=KJV
Gen 6:11-13 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Here's a link to other instances of the word "giant" or "giants" in the bible, too many to list here.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=giant*&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
That being said by Moses (above in Genesis), we look to the following biblical mentions of the Book of Jasher ...
Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
And ...
2Sa 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
And let's not forget this important mention ...
Jde 1:6-7 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
2Pe 2:4-5 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; ...
The rebellious father-fallen angels are chained in the bowels of the earth; however, their hybrid-offspring, drowned during Noah's flood, are what we now call demons, evil spirits, devils, etc (see more on that below). So now, we move on to Jasher, Enoch, and Jubilees recounting what they have to say on the topic of fallen angels, their hybrid-human-offspring (giants, nephilim) and their attempt to destroy/manipulate both mankind & all other creatures of the earth!
.:: JASHER ::. Chapter 4 ...
18 And their judges and rulers {of the fallen angels} went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
.:: 2 ENOCH ::. Chapter 18 ...
1 The men {heavenly angels} took me on to the fifth heaven and placed me, and there I saw many and countless soldiers, called Grigori, of human appearance, and their size (was) greater than that of great giants and their faces withered, and the silence of their mouths perpetual, and their was no service on the fifth heaven, and I said to the men who were with me:
2 Wherefore are these very withered and their faces melancholy, and their mouths silent, and (wherefore) is there no service on this heaven?
3 And they said to me: These are the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail (Satan) rejected the Lord of light, and after them are those who are held in great darkness on the second heaven, and three of them went down on to earth from the Lord’s throne, to the place Ermon {Mt Hermon}, and broke through their vows on the shoulder of the hill Ermon and saw the daughters of men how good they are, and took to themselves wives, and befouled the earth with their deeds, who in all times of their age made lawlessness and mixing {refers to mixing of humans and animals}, and giants are born and marvellous big men and great enmity.
4 And therefore God judged them with great judgment, and they weep for their brethren and they will be punished on the Lord’s great day.
5 And I said to the Grigori: I saw your brethren and their works, and their great torments, and I prayed for them, but the Lord has condemned them (to be) under earth till (the existing) heaven and earth shall end for ever.
.:: JUBILEES ::.
Jubilees 5:1-3
1 And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the angels of God saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants.
2 And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walks on the earth -all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men (was) thus evil continually.
3 And God looked upon the earth, and behold it was corrupt, and all flesh had corrupted its orders, and all that were upon the earth had wrought all manner of evil before His eyes.
Jubilees 7:20-27
20 And in the twenty-eighth jubilee [1324-1372 A.M.] Noah began to enjoin upon his sons' sons the ordinances and commandments, and all the judgments that he knew, and he exhorted his sons to observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity.
21 For owing to these three things came the flood upon the earth, namely, owing to the fornication wherein the Watchers against the law of their ordinances went a whoring after the daughters of men, and took themselves wives of all which they chose: and they made the beginning of uncleanness.
22 And they begat sons the Naphidim, and they were all unlike, and they devoured one another: and the Giants slew the Naphil, and the Naphil slew the Eljo, and the Eljo mankind, and one man another.
23 And every one sold himself to work iniquity and to shed much blood, and the earth was filled with iniquity.
24 And after this they sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves and walks on the earth: and much blood was shed on the earth, and every imagination and desire of men imagined vanity and evil continually.
25 And the Lord destroyed everything from off the face of the earth; because of the wickedness of their deeds, and because of the blood which they had shed in the midst of the earth He destroyed everything.
26 'And we were left, I and you, my sons, and everything that entered with us into the ark, and behold I see your works before me that ye do not walk in righteousness: for in the path of destruction ye have begun to walk, and ye are parting one from another, and are envious one of another, and (so it comes) that ye are not in harmony, my sons, each with his brother.
27 For I see, and behold the demons have begun (their) seductions against you and against your children and now I fear on your behalf, that after my death ye will shed the blood of men upon the earth, and that ye, too, will be destroyed from the face of the earth. {See here for where demons/evil spirits come from http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm}
Jubilees 29:9-11
9 But before they used to call the land of Gilead the land of the Rephaim; for it was the land of the Rephaim, and the Rephaim were born (there), giants whose height was ten, nine, eight down to seven cubits.
10 And their habitation was from the land of the children of Ammon to Mount Hermon, and the seats of their kingdom were Karnaim and Ashtaroth, and Edrei, and Misur, and Beon.
11 And the Lord destroyed them because of the evil of their deeds; for they were very malignant, and the Amorites dwelt in their stead, wicked and sinful, and there is no people to-day which has wrought to the full all their sins, and they have no longer length of life on the earth.
If you haven't looked into these books, you should. Of course, take them with a grain of salt, they are NOT part of our biblical cannon, but that doesn't mean they don't have some validity or truth to them. See below for links to these books, I highly suggest you read them. Eat the meat, spit out the bones, shelve those things that you do not understand rather than discounting them altogether ... after all, you don't fully understand everything in the bible either! Reading these has brought quite a bit of clarity for me.
So now, we choose to either believe what the bible hints at as we see in these other ancient books ... or not ... we ARE in the days of Noah & Lot right now ... we are trying to play god in creating cloned copies of an original and even *mixing* kinds such as mice & rats with genetic human body parts growing on their backs, and even to the genetically modified foods (GMOs) we're told we can safely eat. These passages explain WHY the flood occurred, and what we are seeing in our skies & hearing of by people that claim they've been abducted by aliens. We are returning to the ancient ways from the days before Noah's flood and as a result the world will this time be destroyed by FIRE as the bible states. I report, you decide ;o}
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Get Jesus into your heart & life now, before it's too late. He IS coming, sooner than most believe.
Online bible search, my fav utility ...
https://www.blueletterbible.org/
Links to the books mentioned above ...
Enoch (1 Enoch) http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm
2 Enoch (aka: The Apocalypse of 2 Enoch or The Book of the Secrets of Enoch) http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enochs2.htm
Jasher http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/jasher.html
Jubilees http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/jubilees/index.htm
Other ancient book links ...
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Apocrypha-Books/ (Catholic Cannon)
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/
http://sacred-texts.com/
Finally, a couple of articles of interest ...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas119.htm (part 20 of a series)
http://www.fallenangels-ckquarterman.com/the-book-of-enoch-and-demons/
Thanks for reading!
{Curly bracket comments mine}
Nothing's new in the world ...
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. {Note these "men of renown", these are the Greek & Roman *gods* (among other mythical gods), and the mythical creatures we've heard of such as centaurs (half man, half horse), etc, arise from these corruptions as well. See more below on the "mixing" of man & animal alike.}
See also Strong's H5303 {giants, the Nephilim} https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H5303&t=KJV
Gen 6:11-13 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Here's a link to other instances of the word "giant" or "giants" in the bible, too many to list here.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=giant*&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1
That being said by Moses (above in Genesis), we look to the following biblical mentions of the Book of Jasher ...
Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
And ...
2Sa 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
And let's not forget this important mention ...
Jde 1:6-7 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
2Pe 2:4-5 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; ...
The rebellious father-fallen angels are chained in the bowels of the earth; however, their hybrid-offspring, drowned during Noah's flood, are what we now call demons, evil spirits, devils, etc (see more on that below). So now, we move on to Jasher, Enoch, and Jubilees recounting what they have to say on the topic of fallen angels, their hybrid-human-offspring (giants, nephilim) and their attempt to destroy/manipulate both mankind & all other creatures of the earth!
.:: JASHER ::. Chapter 4 ...
18 And their judges and rulers {of the fallen angels} went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
.:: 2 ENOCH ::. Chapter 18 ...
1 The men {heavenly angels} took me on to the fifth heaven and placed me, and there I saw many and countless soldiers, called Grigori, of human appearance, and their size (was) greater than that of great giants and their faces withered, and the silence of their mouths perpetual, and their was no service on the fifth heaven, and I said to the men who were with me:
2 Wherefore are these very withered and their faces melancholy, and their mouths silent, and (wherefore) is there no service on this heaven?
3 And they said to me: These are the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail (Satan) rejected the Lord of light, and after them are those who are held in great darkness on the second heaven, and three of them went down on to earth from the Lord’s throne, to the place Ermon {Mt Hermon}, and broke through their vows on the shoulder of the hill Ermon and saw the daughters of men how good they are, and took to themselves wives, and befouled the earth with their deeds, who in all times of their age made lawlessness and mixing {refers to mixing of humans and animals}, and giants are born and marvellous big men and great enmity.
4 And therefore God judged them with great judgment, and they weep for their brethren and they will be punished on the Lord’s great day.
5 And I said to the Grigori: I saw your brethren and their works, and their great torments, and I prayed for them, but the Lord has condemned them (to be) under earth till (the existing) heaven and earth shall end for ever.
.:: JUBILEES ::.
Jubilees 5:1-3
1 And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the angels of God saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants.
2 And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walks on the earth -all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men (was) thus evil continually.
3 And God looked upon the earth, and behold it was corrupt, and all flesh had corrupted its orders, and all that were upon the earth had wrought all manner of evil before His eyes.
Jubilees 7:20-27
20 And in the twenty-eighth jubilee [1324-1372 A.M.] Noah began to enjoin upon his sons' sons the ordinances and commandments, and all the judgments that he knew, and he exhorted his sons to observe righteousness, and to cover the shame of their flesh, and to bless their Creator, and honour father and mother, and love their neighbour, and guard their souls from fornication and uncleanness and all iniquity.
21 For owing to these three things came the flood upon the earth, namely, owing to the fornication wherein the Watchers against the law of their ordinances went a whoring after the daughters of men, and took themselves wives of all which they chose: and they made the beginning of uncleanness.
22 And they begat sons the Naphidim, and they were all unlike, and they devoured one another: and the Giants slew the Naphil, and the Naphil slew the Eljo, and the Eljo mankind, and one man another.
23 And every one sold himself to work iniquity and to shed much blood, and the earth was filled with iniquity.
24 And after this they sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves and walks on the earth: and much blood was shed on the earth, and every imagination and desire of men imagined vanity and evil continually.
25 And the Lord destroyed everything from off the face of the earth; because of the wickedness of their deeds, and because of the blood which they had shed in the midst of the earth He destroyed everything.
26 'And we were left, I and you, my sons, and everything that entered with us into the ark, and behold I see your works before me that ye do not walk in righteousness: for in the path of destruction ye have begun to walk, and ye are parting one from another, and are envious one of another, and (so it comes) that ye are not in harmony, my sons, each with his brother.
27 For I see, and behold the demons have begun (their) seductions against you and against your children and now I fear on your behalf, that after my death ye will shed the blood of men upon the earth, and that ye, too, will be destroyed from the face of the earth. {See here for where demons/evil spirits come from http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm}
Jubilees 29:9-11
9 But before they used to call the land of Gilead the land of the Rephaim; for it was the land of the Rephaim, and the Rephaim were born (there), giants whose height was ten, nine, eight down to seven cubits.
10 And their habitation was from the land of the children of Ammon to Mount Hermon, and the seats of their kingdom were Karnaim and Ashtaroth, and Edrei, and Misur, and Beon.
11 And the Lord destroyed them because of the evil of their deeds; for they were very malignant, and the Amorites dwelt in their stead, wicked and sinful, and there is no people to-day which has wrought to the full all their sins, and they have no longer length of life on the earth.
If you haven't looked into these books, you should. Of course, take them with a grain of salt, they are NOT part of our biblical cannon, but that doesn't mean they don't have some validity or truth to them. See below for links to these books, I highly suggest you read them. Eat the meat, spit out the bones, shelve those things that you do not understand rather than discounting them altogether ... after all, you don't fully understand everything in the bible either! Reading these has brought quite a bit of clarity for me.
So now, we choose to either believe what the bible hints at as we see in these other ancient books ... or not ... we ARE in the days of Noah & Lot right now ... we are trying to play god in creating cloned copies of an original and even *mixing* kinds such as mice & rats with genetic human body parts growing on their backs, and even to the genetically modified foods (GMOs) we're told we can safely eat. These passages explain WHY the flood occurred, and what we are seeing in our skies & hearing of by people that claim they've been abducted by aliens. We are returning to the ancient ways from the days before Noah's flood and as a result the world will this time be destroyed by FIRE as the bible states. I report, you decide ;o}
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Get Jesus into your heart & life now, before it's too late. He IS coming, sooner than most believe.
Online bible search, my fav utility ...
https://www.blueletterbible.org/
Links to the books mentioned above ...
Enoch (1 Enoch) http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm
2 Enoch (aka: The Apocalypse of 2 Enoch or The Book of the Secrets of Enoch) http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enochs2.htm
Jasher http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/jasher.html
Jubilees http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/jubilees/index.htm
Other ancient book links ...
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Apocrypha-Books/ (Catholic Cannon)
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/
http://sacred-texts.com/
Finally, a couple of articles of interest ...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas119.htm (part 20 of a series)
http://www.fallenangels-ckquarterman.com/the-book-of-enoch-and-demons/
Thanks for reading!
{Curly bracket comments mine}
12/26/15 ~ Moses, and the two witnesses ...
For those that claim Moses is one of the two witnesses and that he *did not die*, I present to you the following witnesses in scripture that -he did indeed die- and was buried on Mt Nebo ...
.:: MOSES ::.
Deu 31:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thy days approach that thou must die: call Joshua, and present yourselves in the tabernacle of the congregation, that I may give him a charge. And Moses and Joshua went, and presented themselves in the tabernacle of the congregation.
Deu 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.
Deu 32:49-50 Get thee up into this mountain Abarim, unto mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, that is over against Jericho; and behold the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel for a possession: And die in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gathered unto thy people; as Aaron thy brother died in mount Hor, and was gathered unto his people: {No one disputes that Aaron died! Why do they refuse to believe this scripture that says Moses will likewise "die".}
Deu 33:1 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
Deu 34:5-8 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And he {the LORD, or possibly Michael the Archangel at the LORD's instruction} buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated. And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended. {You don't weep !30 days! for someone that didn't die.}
Jos 1:1-2 Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying, Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. {The LORD said it!}
Jde 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Now, to address the two witnesses ... they could only be Enoch of the 10th generation from Adam (translated) & Elijah the prophet (taken to heaven in a chariot of fire) as they are the ONLY TWO to have not died.
.:: ENOCH ::.
Gen 5:23-24 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
.:: ELIJAH ::.
2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
I may do another post on what I think Jesus meant when talking about Elijah having already come (in the spirit of John the baptist). For now, I think the two witnesses can only be the two men who have not yet died because the two witnesses WILL DIE {see Rev 11 link below} ...
Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
.:: TWO WITNESSES ::.
Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
Zec 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.
Zec 4:11-14 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. {The candlestick represents Jesus with His seven spirits/eyes; the two olive trees/branches represent the two human witnesses who have not yet died, Enoch & Elijah.}
Why two witnesses?
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. -Jesus
Rev 11:3-4 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. -Jesus
Read the whole chapter (Rev 11 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/11/) for more information on these two witnesses, who are also called "two prophets", and are yet future in their coming fulfillment at the sixth trumpet. Again, the two olive trees represent the two human witnesses that have not yet died, Enoch & Elijah.
Luk 24:44 And he {Jesus} said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. -Jesus
... and ...
Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. -Jesus
To investigate Jesus' claims as seen above, I challenge you to begin by reading: Isa 51, Isa 63, Psa 2, Jhn 1.
Also, Jesus explains the purpose of candlesticks --- they are a place on which the candle that holds the fiery light rests, not to be hidden ...
Luk 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light. -Jesus
The two candlesticks here refers to two congregations of peoples, which I believe represents believing Israelites & Gentiles. We see Jesus define candlesticks in the beginning of the Book of Revelation ...
Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. -Jesus
Well, that's all for now folks! I hope you had a blessed Christmas ;o}
Thanks for reading!
{KJV used, all curly bracket comments mine; blue letters OT God, red letters NT Jesus.}
.:: MOSES ::.
Deu 31:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thy days approach that thou must die: call Joshua, and present yourselves in the tabernacle of the congregation, that I may give him a charge. And Moses and Joshua went, and presented themselves in the tabernacle of the congregation.
Deu 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.
Deu 32:49-50 Get thee up into this mountain Abarim, unto mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, that is over against Jericho; and behold the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel for a possession: And die in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gathered unto thy people; as Aaron thy brother died in mount Hor, and was gathered unto his people: {No one disputes that Aaron died! Why do they refuse to believe this scripture that says Moses will likewise "die".}
Deu 33:1 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
Deu 34:5-8 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And he {the LORD, or possibly Michael the Archangel at the LORD's instruction} buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated. And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended. {You don't weep !30 days! for someone that didn't die.}
Jos 1:1-2 Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying, Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. {The LORD said it!}
Jde 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Now, to address the two witnesses ... they could only be Enoch of the 10th generation from Adam (translated) & Elijah the prophet (taken to heaven in a chariot of fire) as they are the ONLY TWO to have not died.
.:: ENOCH ::.
Gen 5:23-24 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
.:: ELIJAH ::.
2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
I may do another post on what I think Jesus meant when talking about Elijah having already come (in the spirit of John the baptist). For now, I think the two witnesses can only be the two men who have not yet died because the two witnesses WILL DIE {see Rev 11 link below} ...
Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
.:: TWO WITNESSES ::.
Deu 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
Zec 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.
Zec 4:11-14 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. {The candlestick represents Jesus with His seven spirits/eyes; the two olive trees/branches represent the two human witnesses who have not yet died, Enoch & Elijah.}
Why two witnesses?
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. -Jesus
Rev 11:3-4 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. -Jesus
Read the whole chapter (Rev 11 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/11/) for more information on these two witnesses, who are also called "two prophets", and are yet future in their coming fulfillment at the sixth trumpet. Again, the two olive trees represent the two human witnesses that have not yet died, Enoch & Elijah.
Luk 24:44 And he {Jesus} said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. -Jesus
... and ...
Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. -Jesus
To investigate Jesus' claims as seen above, I challenge you to begin by reading: Isa 51, Isa 63, Psa 2, Jhn 1.
Also, Jesus explains the purpose of candlesticks --- they are a place on which the candle that holds the fiery light rests, not to be hidden ...
Luk 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light. -Jesus
The two candlesticks here refers to two congregations of peoples, which I believe represents believing Israelites & Gentiles. We see Jesus define candlesticks in the beginning of the Book of Revelation ...
Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. -Jesus
Well, that's all for now folks! I hope you had a blessed Christmas ;o}
Thanks for reading!
{KJV used, all curly bracket comments mine; blue letters OT God, red letters NT Jesus.}
12/14/15 ~ Tune in to Walla!
If you are in Israel and you want to find out more about the Meshiach, Yeshua {Jesus}, check out the links below that take you to websites in Hebrew with people's testimonies on how they've met the Meshiach. Quoting, in part, the article linked below ...
Walla!, the mainstream Israeli media giant, is producing, at their own expense, a series of up to 24 live interviews with Messianic Jews about Jesus. In the interviews, a well-known Israeli actress asks Israeli Believers questions about faith in Jesus.
Some of the topics being discussed are:
• Who are these Messianic Jews;
• What is the difference between Messianic Judaism and Christianity;
• Talmudic fables intended to dismiss Jesus;
• Why is the Hebrew New Testament not available in Israeli book stores;
• Isaiah 53
Need answers? Click either of these links! These two websites are in Hebrew ;o}
http://www.igod.co.il/
http://www.messiah.co.il/
Here's the link to the website in English, be sure to check out the testimonies ;o}
http://imetmessiah.com/
Source article http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=17214
Keywords: Yeshua the Messiah, New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth, Messianic Jews,
Yeshua HaMeshiach, Adonai, YHVH, Elohim, God, G-d
Walla!, the mainstream Israeli media giant, is producing, at their own expense, a series of up to 24 live interviews with Messianic Jews about Jesus. In the interviews, a well-known Israeli actress asks Israeli Believers questions about faith in Jesus.
Some of the topics being discussed are:
• Who are these Messianic Jews;
• What is the difference between Messianic Judaism and Christianity;
• Talmudic fables intended to dismiss Jesus;
• Why is the Hebrew New Testament not available in Israeli book stores;
• Isaiah 53
Need answers? Click either of these links! These two websites are in Hebrew ;o}
http://www.igod.co.il/
http://www.messiah.co.il/
Here's the link to the website in English, be sure to check out the testimonies ;o}
http://imetmessiah.com/
Source article http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=17214
Keywords: Yeshua the Messiah, New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth, Messianic Jews,
Yeshua HaMeshiach, Adonai, YHVH, Elohim, God, G-d
11/27/15 ~ The WORD made flesh ...
IF the Old Testament (Covenant) &/or New Testament (Covenant) are full of *lies* in your eyes; at best just a series of writings by Hebrews or Jews that have no significance to the church today, consider this ...
1) Jesus only had the Old Testament (Covenant) ... that WAS the soul food He *grew up* on.
2) Jesus, when tempted of the devil, quoted the bible all three times as His sole means of defense, saying:
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said,
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that proceedeth out of
the mouth of God.
Jesus was quoting partly from, Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him,
It is written again,
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Jesus is partially quoting from, Deu 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him,
Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and
him only shalt thou serve.
Jesus is quoting from here, Deu 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
When we are under demonic attack, this is how we are to defend ourselves, by quoting God's word. It's Jesus, in writing!
And, did you notice??? "It is written" ... He says it many more times, starting with the beginning of His ministry when He partially quotes regarding His mission/ministry (1st coming) from Isaiah 61:1-2:
Luk 4:16-21 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been
brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue
on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was
delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when
he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me
to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and
recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
And he closed the book, and he gave [it] again to the minister,
and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue
were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them,
This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Here Jesus is quoting, in part, Isaiah 61:1-2, which says: The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; {"the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn" speaks of His 2nd coming, which is why He stopped short of saying it}
Even while He was hanging, dying, on the cross, with what little breath He had left He warned them saying:
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying,
Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted,
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was telling all that could hear that He was fulfilling prophecy from Psa 22, I post in part:
Psa 22:1-2 [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. {Read ALL of Psa 22, it's prophecy of Jesus on the cross}
And here is even more of Jesus quoting scriptures, "it is written":
Mat 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written,
Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall
prepare thy way before thee. {Speaking of John the baptist}
Mat 21:13 And said unto them,
It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer;
but ye have made it a den of thieves. {Speaking of the temple}
Mat 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him:
but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed!
it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
{Speaking of His betrayal by Judas, his friend}
Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them,
All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written,
I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be
scattered abroad. {Speaking of the apostles and disciples
abandoning Him the night of His arrest}
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them,
Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written,
This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Do you believe you honor Him when you say His word is a lie or that any part of His word is a lie? Is He NOT God that He cannot get His word down to you IN TACT over the millennia?
IS God's word full of lies then? Here's what it has to say in its own defense:
Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
2Pe 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
If you believe any part of the bible contains errors, or lies, then you believe Jesus is a liar and if that's the case then He is not God nor the Son of God because God cannot lie. The ONLY *word* the ancient Hebrews had was what we today call the Old Testament (Covenant), this is what Jesus came to do, be the word manifest to us in the flesh.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which
I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must
be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in
the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The OT is alive & well, in Jesus, the word made flesh. If you don't see the perfection and flow between the OT & NT then you are not seeking God with your whole heart. He promised that ...
Deu 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
IF the source of your information is anything BUT the bible, you are searching in the wrong place.
Luk 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
Jhn 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Now you have no excuse. BUT, you DO have choice ... choose to believe God's word in its entirety, or choose man's word. Your eternity depends on what you choose because NOT to believe God's word is to call Him (Jesus, God's word made flesh) a liar.
Deu 30:19-20 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
1Ki 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. {Baal, a demonic false god}
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Thanks for reading ;o:
{KJV used, curly bracket comments mine, red letters are either scripture quotes of Jesus' words or refer to Jesus.}
1) Jesus only had the Old Testament (Covenant) ... that WAS the soul food He *grew up* on.
2) Jesus, when tempted of the devil, quoted the bible all three times as His sole means of defense, saying:
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said,
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that proceedeth out of
the mouth of God.
Jesus was quoting partly from, Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him,
It is written again,
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Jesus is partially quoting from, Deu 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him,
Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and
him only shalt thou serve.
Jesus is quoting from here, Deu 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
When we are under demonic attack, this is how we are to defend ourselves, by quoting God's word. It's Jesus, in writing!
And, did you notice??? "It is written" ... He says it many more times, starting with the beginning of His ministry when He partially quotes regarding His mission/ministry (1st coming) from Isaiah 61:1-2:
Luk 4:16-21 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been
brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue
on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was
delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when
he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me
to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and
recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
And he closed the book, and he gave [it] again to the minister,
and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue
were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them,
This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Here Jesus is quoting, in part, Isaiah 61:1-2, which says: The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; {"the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn" speaks of His 2nd coming, which is why He stopped short of saying it}
Even while He was hanging, dying, on the cross, with what little breath He had left He warned them saying:
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying,
Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted,
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He was telling all that could hear that He was fulfilling prophecy from Psa 22, I post in part:
Psa 22:1-2 [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. {Read ALL of Psa 22, it's prophecy of Jesus on the cross}
And here is even more of Jesus quoting scriptures, "it is written":
Mat 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written,
Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall
prepare thy way before thee. {Speaking of John the baptist}
Mat 21:13 And said unto them,
It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer;
but ye have made it a den of thieves. {Speaking of the temple}
Mat 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him:
but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed!
it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
{Speaking of His betrayal by Judas, his friend}
Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them,
All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written,
I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be
scattered abroad. {Speaking of the apostles and disciples
abandoning Him the night of His arrest}
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them,
Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written,
This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Do you believe you honor Him when you say His word is a lie or that any part of His word is a lie? Is He NOT God that He cannot get His word down to you IN TACT over the millennia?
IS God's word full of lies then? Here's what it has to say in its own defense:
Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
2Pe 1:20-21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
If you believe any part of the bible contains errors, or lies, then you believe Jesus is a liar and if that's the case then He is not God nor the Son of God because God cannot lie. The ONLY *word* the ancient Hebrews had was what we today call the Old Testament (Covenant), this is what Jesus came to do, be the word manifest to us in the flesh.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which
I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must
be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in
the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The OT is alive & well, in Jesus, the word made flesh. If you don't see the perfection and flow between the OT & NT then you are not seeking God with your whole heart. He promised that ...
Deu 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
IF the source of your information is anything BUT the bible, you are searching in the wrong place.
Luk 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
Jhn 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Now you have no excuse. BUT, you DO have choice ... choose to believe God's word in its entirety, or choose man's word. Your eternity depends on what you choose because NOT to believe God's word is to call Him (Jesus, God's word made flesh) a liar.
Deu 30:19-20 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
1Ki 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. {Baal, a demonic false god}
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Thanks for reading ;o:
{KJV used, curly bracket comments mine, red letters are either scripture quotes of Jesus' words or refer to Jesus.}
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